I don't think I'd care either way unless someone could demonstrate it's relevant to their skillset.

@redbai What the idea that someone thinks everyone gets more than just this life when they have yours in their hands does not trouble you? How about a pilot expecting the rapture any day now? Better still in terms of relevance to US politics, a Senator dealing with climate change legislation or Israel?

@273kelvin I'm not concerned with the pilot unless they start ranting over the intercom that something was going to happen because of their belief, so my answer wouldn't change in that regard. Politicians are a whole different matter. The fact that they make decisions based on their belief system is exactly the kind of thing I brought the subject up for discussion.

@redbai Under 99% of most circumstances, it probably would not matter. But if there was a chance in 100 that a believing pilot would stop doing/thinking of, all that they could to save the aeroplane and start to pray? Then sorry but I would have to go for the atheist every time.

@273kelvin I'd like to point out that atheist was not an option in your first comment. If you had I would have pointed out that I agree.

@redbai I thought I kind of implied that with "More or less anxious"

@273kelvin I didn't read an implication of atheism anywhere in the comment. I inferred it to mean a christian or muslim as opposed to some other religion or no religion. Given that there are theists with no religion I inferred it to mean religious beliefs not whether or not there was a god. I, by default, to separate religion and belief in a god.

@redbai The question was; "Would you be more or less anxious in a plane if you knew that the pilot was a devout Christian/Muslim? Sure atheism was mentioned specifically but if the pilot was not a believer then what would they be? The obvious point of the question is - believing pilot or non-believing pilot because if the fact that a believing pilot causes you any increased anxiety? Then the alternative is obviously atheist.

@273kelvin It was apparently not as obvious as you believe. If you had said, "Would you be more or less anxious in a plain if you know the pilot was a devout theist?" instead of listing religions, you might have a point. But as I said before, religions are not gods and it is entirely possible to be a theist and not follow any religion at all. Deists believe in a god but have no religious affiliation were they also supposed to be assumed in your question?

@redbai Ffs do you guys really need several court hearings and a supreme court judgement every time to dot all the "I" s? It was a broad stroke question: Are theists less responsible with others lives than atheists? Okay, it was couched in terms that a theist could readily understand but that was deliberate.

@273kelvin "It was a broad stroke question: Are theists less responsible with others lives than atheists?"

That was not the question. The original question was couched in a religious context and atheism wasn't even implied.

@redbai Logical progression; If a theist pilot makes you more nervous, then it would de facto mean that you would be less nervous with an atheist one wouldn't it mmmm? It is implied in the question.

@273kelvin I again note that you've changed the question to one of theism vs atheism again where in the original question that was not the comparison. If that had been the original question this dialog wouldn't have even occurred. You seem to not understand that religion =/= theism.

Right. It also begs the question, why would an all powerful creator "need" to hide from his hapless human creations? If God feels the need to hide, why then command humans to believe in said God and obey commands cryptically meted out by fallable human clerics and prophets. Why not present self in grand, undeniable fashion and spell out what he wants for us and from us?
The entire paradigm is childish shit.

There are a decent amount of Amish living in my area. Even the old timers carry some type of phone nowadays.

@Tejas Cheaters!

But why do they believe them without evidence? Doesn't it make sense that if it's okay to believe in god without any real evidence it's okay to believe in other things without evidence - thus defining the flawed epistemology?

@redbai its in their comfort zone and level of intelligence

@redbai Most people believe what they want to believe, and not what they don’t....Religious people desperately want to believe they are special and above everything else....

Doing a good job as we speak!!

@Reneckliberal 1-2% mortality can scarcely be called thinning the herd. Worse, those that recovere are MORE cognitively impaired at 10-25%. If you can tell.

@racocn8 in florida it was reconed that 4% of voting republicans are victoms of covid... Thining the herd?!!... Its a start