Yeah? And you're an idiot.

I think you missed the point of the article...

@Storm1752 no I did not. Speaks to the broader context of the fear people have in the West of the coof.

@Ryo1 no I did not. Speaks to the broader context of the fear people have in the West of the coof.

Yes, apart from those who genuinely suffer conditions such that they would seriously become ill if they were vaccinated, I'm inclined to think that anti-vaxxers are used as political tools - possibly.

Just to be transparent, the JW's have been told to get the jab and to stock up on basic food stuffs in the event that this pandemic gets really bad. My mother is a JW and a good person except for that delusion around Jehovah. My older brother died of a brain aneurysm, he might have been saved with a blood transfusion but his JW wife stood by and watched him die with a JW lawyer by her side to prevent the medical staff from taking the required action to save him.
Revenge really because he took her by force and impregnated her, so she had to marry him. The JW church sanctioned all of it, little wonder I have nothing but contempt for religions.

@SnowyOwl. That is sick, it has always dumbfounded me as to the lengths religious people will go to justify their shit in the name of God, as if God gave license to do what ever the hell they want and to make themselves feel good about it.

@MrDragon And that's why I have been an Atheist since I was 13 and therefore free to tell the religious leaders to go take a flying fuck at a rolling donut. The road to Atheism is paved with well read Bibles, I managed to go cover to cover 2.5 times.

They don't do blood transfusions - ones I knew took vaccines, of course now, who knows what their gods say.

The article says that some patients have health conditions known to cause serious side-effects to a shot. I don't know what kind of conditions exactly, but if a doctor issues an exemption note for a shot due to one or more of these conditions, I would assume it is legit.

I have a friend with an auto immune disorder, her immune system is attacking her own body. If she gets any kind of vaccination (she can not even have a tetanus booster) her immune system goes into overdrive and she ends up in hospital on massive doses of drugs to calm her system back down (her last tetanus shot nearly killed her) She relies on others to keep her safe and isolates herself when flu season comes around. Thankfully in the NT flu season is quite short lived.

@Ryo1 Doctors can issue an exemption all they want. This does not allow the "exempt person" to fly, mingle in stores and clubs, go on military bases, or freely enter any building they want to. They will be restricted.

@DenoPenno So what solution would you suggest for those with any of the "conditions", like @Budgie's friend, who would become seriously ill as a result of getting a vaccination?

@Ryo1 It would simply mean that this person could not go anywhere a vaccine was required and that others might have to do their shopping, etc. for them. It would in no way involve a "free pass" to just go and do what you want to do. Rules are rules and it is all for the safety of everyone.

@DenoPenno So what you are saying is that she has to live the rest of her life in her house with people doing things for her. She is the person at risk if she goes out of her house and mixes.

She is all for vaccinations and her children and partner are all fully vaccinated, she would get it if it would not possibly kill her. So sorry she does get to move in the community and it is up to each individual place as to whether or not she is allowed in or to use their services. She carries her medical report from her doctor to explain to places why she is unvaccinated, if they request it. (we don't actually have that as an issue yet where I live)

I also taught a young boy who had so many allergies including egg, now at the time (I don't know about the newer vaccines) many of them were created in eggs so to give him a vaccination would induce anaphylactic shock. So he has to be vaccinated and given a shot of adrenaline to see if they can beat the anaphylaxis or he can not attend school? If a disease rose up in the community he was kept at home until it had passed before coming to school. He is only alive as he had another medical condition was in hospital for it and was given something with egg in it (he was really young) they had to call in a crash cart to bring him back. They then did allergen testing and found he could not tolerate any form of nut, eggs, grasses,(although they only gave him hives). He had an epipen with him at all times.

There are people who have valid medical reasons they are being swamped under the masses who are screaming out in some sort of denial, antivaxxer, oppositional defiance way. Those people need their butts kicked.

@Budgie What I am saying is what I already said. It is very simple. Corporations, clubs , and restaurants who require you to be vaccinated are not going to make an exception for you. Letters claiming you should be an exception do not change the rules of corporations and others.

@DenoPenno
Governments & businesses are making exceptions, providing valid MEDICAL exemptions, for people like budgie's friend. The added benefit of vaccinating everone who can be, is the protection of those who validly can't be. As soon as vaccination rates are high enough, and infections reduced, everyone will be unrestricted. In the interim, equitable treatment of people without choices, is a measure if a decent society.

Hi there. Yes, they should be told to leave. They will remain misinformed, though. Is there any way they can be educated better?

@Ryo1 Maybe some kind of re-education program but of course the anti vaxxers would scream blue murder about their freedoms.

Yeah, that's predictable.

That would be a fair agreement.

The thing is, should they catch COVID, they can pass it on to others. My understanding of getting vaccinated is not only to protect myself but also to protect others so that they don't catch COVID from me.