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The UK government have got to do better.


Government restrictions on ‘conversion therapy’ falls short

Humanists UK Director of Public Affairs and Policy Richy Thompson commented,

‘Conversion therapy is harmful pseudoscience and as such it should be banned in full. Yet these proposals skirt around the issue of harm caused in religious settings and as a result fails to correctly balance competing rights of freedom of religion or belief and freedom from cruel and degrading treatment.

‘Humanists are strong advocates for freedom of religion or belief, but only so long as it does no harm to others. We know it is within religious settings that the most damaging types of conversion therapy, such as exorcisms and forced prayer, occur. When people are experiencing such extreme distress over their sexual orientation or gender identity, they should be met with person-centred, therapeutically well-grounded support. They should not face coercive, medically worthless practices that seek to push them in a particular direction.’

[humanists.uk]

Ryo1 8 Oct 29
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They are offering the wrong people therapy. Rather than trying to convert gays to straights which doesn't work no matter what they say, they need to offer it to those who believe there is something wrong or evil about being gay. Hatred and bigotry can be altered to accept gays as a part of our societies. PFLAG is proof of it and multiple accounts of those who still love their sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, uncles and aunts, and freinds who are gay. They are the same people they always were, except they are being honest about who they are attracted to and who the love.

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Conversion therapy flat out does not work and there is no science to back it up in any way.

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UK society still has a very long way to go when it comes to accepting sexual plurality.

Hi there. British society is said to be one of the most secular in the world. I would be pedantic and say that it is the religious people within British society that find it hard to accept sexual plurality (though I'm not forgetting that we have gay people with religious beliefs who are even in prominent positions).

@Ryo1 While it might be reasonable to conjecture a link between religiosity and sexual inhibition, I am not aware of any studies to that end. Mind you, I haven't looked for any such studies. 😉

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Abhorrent practice

bobwjr Level 10 Oct 29, 2021
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Yes... CT should be banned in full, so failures to monitor don't occur

If CT was not paid for by the government then they would not get paid at all. I think most of these idiots are repubs that cannot find a good job and are gay so they do this and kill two birds with one stone.

@dalefvictor
I didn't exactly understand what you said here.

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Yes, well the UK also has existing laws against FGM, but last time I looked at the stats nobody had ever been prosecuted. Religions will always get away with things, either because the laws are too weak, or because they are not enforced, until there is a political will to stand up to them. And that is not going to happen until the secular community has done a lot more work.

This kind of practice is always performed behind closed doors, plus those involved are put under pressure not to report it even if they are against it. I guess it's hard to catch them red-handed.

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Now, how do we convince the religions?

It is not possible to convince mental defectives. They are mentally defective, you see.

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