Sorry to be all confrontational and left wing

@rafferty Hey, I thought you were just getting started! My posting of these & other late-night hosts is my way of being a bit confrontational. Plus, it seems, far too often, that that is the best way to get the news anymore!

Neither of these people have a shot. At all. They would have begun campaigning like yesterday if they did. Id worry more about the current criminals making a coup. That may have been the last election and nonconfrontational liberals and progressives are being given this "oh lets vote them out" nonsense as a distraction by people that can rig a national election and public opinion by facebook.

@rafferty neither seems interested in running and that is the problem to me..You have two people who would be phenominal and if they wanted I'm sure they could beat Trump in a landslide..

I mean just look at Tulsi..

Former Army Captain currently serving in the National guard..Works closely with Sanders and has helped push Hawaii off of fossil fuels.

During the Standing rock protest she organized q group of veterans to stand in front of the Native Americans so the cops would stop hurting them..

The tragedy is that she doesn't seem interested in running for president..Even though she would be brilliant.

A moot point and too late for that. America is not what youd call freindly to women.

@rafferty some of us yes..but far too many voted for Hillary for the fact she's a woman and were all too ready to overlook her faults.

@josh23452 whatever faults you speak of are bullshit lies from spurious sources, and youre afraid shed box your ears and make you clean your room. Youd take "clean your room" from jordan peterson or something, i suspect

@rafferty there's your faults...Prior to her first run as president she admantly opposed gay marriage.In her time in the Senate she voted down gun reform,voted for the Iraq war, voted against money to fix the nation's infrastructure.Not to mention her time spent volunteering for a state senator who thought bringing back segregation was a good idea. Oh and let's not even discuss the email buisness because that would be too easy!

@rafferty and actually I am gona go in on the email

So I was in the Navy for 5 years and my job required that I have a security clearance...As does my current job.

Now every year and as often as possible it's described to us what happens if we misuse our clearance or if we do something ireesponsible..Regardless of if it's an accident or not.

I even saw someone go down for plugging their phone into a work computer...Now that was just with a secret clearance...

Listening to former FBI director Comey's speech on Why Hillary didn't get prosecuted there were gems such as

"Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information"

"None of these e-mails should have been on any kind of unclassified system, but their presence is especially concerning because all of these e-mails were housed on unclassified personal servers not even supported by full-time security staff, like those found at Departments and Agencies of the U.S. Government—or even with a commercial service like Gmail."

"There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation."

So either this woman who had a top secret clearance didn't know how to properly use that security clearance or there's some bullshit a foot...Take your pick.

@josh23452 does don know how email works, or how to read or write, i wonder? i don't think he truly does. no, for real, its ridiculous.

yes, yes. Ive heard all these email "crimes" n stuff before. My compliments on sustaining this fake outrage over them for so long. I wonder when the investigations of condi, colin powell, many, many others that don't know how to use emails and blackberrys will start, and what exactly the impact and damage was of all this secret emailing was. do you think Putin intercepted them and posted them to his geocities page?

i heard she also conquered haiti, invaded iraq on her own, allowed poor momar quaddaffi to be torn apart by an angry mob of rebels, evilly plotted with gillibrand to have rape cases in the military tried outside of the mcoj, got healthcare for millions of children as just a "lady". was going to monger some sort of war somewhere. a shill for wall street, unlike Don, lol.

oh, and the fracking. lets not forget that. she wanted to frack places like bulgaria, so they would be energy independent .... of putin... hmmm........

lol, you must be a real basket case trying to make that goldwater girl thing stick, dreamcatcher. She actually wrote pretty extensive about getting out from her familys political scene. as a 15 year old girl. lol. nope, you guys voted for other reasons. id say ego and ladyproblems.

@rafferty call me crazy but I don't trust a person whose flip flopped so much on the issues and besides were not talking about the mis deeds of others..thats The fault I find with people on both sides of the aisle..You excuse the screw ups of you candidate by pointing out the screw ups of others without actually addressing the fact that the person you support messed up. I voted the way I did because Hillary's past was completely different than what she was saying.. Her voting record in the Senate is publically avalible and it boils down to

I didn't support the Iraq war, she voted for it
I support smarter gun control,she voted against it
I support fixing our nation's roads,bridges and water pipes.She voted against that too.
I support gay marriage and I find it odd that she didn't until she started running for president.

And it has nothing to do with holding a grudge against her email issues it's a matter of either she didn't know how to handle classified information or she didn't care enough to be responsible with it...And your thinking she should be entrusted with more classified information? Not to mention why isn't she being held to the same standard as anyone else in this matter? And instead of looking at the faults of others maybe you should ask that as well. And then deal with other's fuck ups.

Also do you remember the debate where she publically announced our response time to a nuclear attack?

@josh23452 you don't give a crap about same sex marriage and certainly not back then. does it affect you in some way? America was no where near ready for it back then, just like Hillary would have been branded a traitor if she didnt give GEORGE BUSH the decider power on iraq.

@josh23452 the Dixie Chicks made some offhand crack about Bush and people called them whores and sent them DEATH THREATS, lol. For a deserved JOKE.

@jorj stop manically tagging me in this mundane post. im following your mewlings ok.

me an my oldest boy would be face down in the gutter were it not for her child heathcare program, so i owe her more than one. if she ordered me to wade into benghazi with a flamethrower to protect those people from momar? yup, ok! if she wanted me to raise an army of hobos and mexicans to overthrow Don, machete style, or Saul Alinsky style? yes maam!

@rafferty actually same sex marriage affects me greatly..

My dad's for example were quite passionate about it..I also suppose that my being head of the gay straight alliance during my grade school years doesn't count for shit either. There's actually a pretty adorable picture of my adoptive dad's kissing my biological dad.

But please continue to make excuses for her and please continue to waste time on a woman who lost twice and had the nerve to blame it on an old man the last time.

Also Bernie had the balls not to V ite for the Iraq war..

You also keep bringing up the off hand things that republicans have done.. Does that really excuse the mistakes of the Left?

@jorj but but but I thought if you didn't support Hillary that must mean you supported Trump!(Sarcasm)

@jorj nope, not trying to talk anyone into anything, make excuses, or any bullshit like that. What are you guys offering again? Oh nothing? free weed or something? lol, this 'generation' stuff, and these 'on welfare' type barbs. really. its strange that you badass progressives don't direct this kind of stuff at don n co. why, its like you are blaming me for wasting your votes or something. i can wait for you clowns and trump to unravel, and then beg for Fleetwoood mac to start playing. the dnc is used to being America's janitors. people that badmouth democracy and social justice bear watching.

bernie the crackpot could get away with not voting for iraq as an I. back then, you never heard of him.

i noticed you bullshitter political flyweights could answer none of my questions put to u without trying to get hostile, lol. hey, ask bernie who allard k. lowenstein is. lol. watch him say 'our crumbling infrastructure' and rhen run for it.

@rafferty were talking about Hillary here..If you wana have a conversation about how awful Trump is we can do that to.. So you defend Hillary for voting for the Iraq war by saying she was too well known not to..Totally makes plenty of sense..Please keep making excuses for her...And ya know I don't agree with everything Bernie says no but again

He didn't vote for the Iraq war
He didn't vote against gun reform
He didn't vote against fixing infrastructure

You've done nothing but make excuses for Hillary...Maybe instead of thinking the sun shines out her ass you can apply the same sorta skepticism about her mistakes...Maybe start looking at people who havent made those same fuck ups.

@josh23452 so your two dads are happy with trump, yeh?

@josh23452 bernie is an nra puppet, sorry. he wouldnt be in office without them. sorry. who cares how he votes. he gets a d-? ted nugent calls hillary a 'toxic c' and fires a machine gun in concert going 'take that, hillary'.

@josh23452 i havent made any excuses for her. she was under 11 hours of investigation by that hobbit, and nothing. looks like youre wrong....

@josh23452 its funny, ive seen male candidates make tons of fuck ups, but never seen this kind of reaction. hmmm....

@josh23452 no i did not say 'she was too well known' i said she would have been branded a freedom hating TRAITOR if she voted against iraq. how old were you back in 2002?

@josh23452 bernie has no plan for fixing infrastructure. he merely says 'our crumbling infrastructure' and that is 'fighting' to you. lol... no, you must do things.

@jorj im sorry, we werent on welfare. i was working two jobs and there was nothing in place from your republican friends. you were 12 at the time, son.

@rafferty I suppose Hillary voting down the assault rifle ban isn't acting in favor of the NRA..And again in regards to your male candidates remark you're once again making excuses.for her by pointing out the shortcomings of others.

And in regards to my two dads,they are just happy I had the balls to vote for my conscience as opposed to picking the lesser of two evils...

@josh23452 yup, like what? 12? so you knew who bernie was back then and cheered loudly when he didnt vote for iraq, or were watching like yu gi oh or something?

@josh23452 elections arent about your conscience. they are about results. voting your conscience netted a president openly hostile to your two dads, as shown by hisngoofy move towards trying to bans trans peoplenin the military, like hes some capricious jackass king from tje old timey bible days

@rafferty so you're saying I shouldn't vote based on who I feel is right for the job? Kinda defeats the whole point of an election..Defeats the purpose of voting. And ya know what even if I didn't know who Bernie was back when I was 12 during his run for president I looked at his voting record in the Senate and I compared it to Hillary...

Tell me was Bernie speaking against gay marriage at the same time Hillary was? Nope!

Did he vote for the same assault rifle ban that Hillary voted against? Yep!

Bernie was marching in civil rights marches..Where was Hillary?

Has Bernie ever mis-use a classified email server? Nope!

Did Bernie vote for the Iraq war? Nope!

Do you not find it off that Hillary didn't become the "Progresssive" candidate until she first ran for president?

@rafferty so you say voting is about results...Do you mean like the results of the two presidential elections that Hillary has lost? Maybe just maybe it's time to find a different candidate.

@josh23452 you seem all fired up or something... Like youre trying to justify fuckimg up to me or to yourself. Its like how youre still trying to talk about hillary instead of defeating Trump, lol

@rafferty not fired up at all but if we wana defeat Trump ok..Lets not back a horse that's already lost the race twice..After all you did say voting is about results.. Might be high time to pick a candidate who hasn't failed twice now.

@josh23452 that isnt happening, unless you know something i dont. are people really suggesting that she run again, or just 'go away', in some totally non sexist way? i didnt think she was going to run again, lol.

A bloody purge of all trumpies and then install her as Empress? Can you show me who is exactly saying that she run again?

@rafferty for one thing there's your girl with that guy you hate..I guess Trump is just another issue she has flip flopped on..To answer your question

I'm saying that she should just go away..Not because she's a woman...But because she is just plain...awful..Is she as bad as Trump? Does it really matter which like of shit smells worse?

@josh23452 nope, its because shes a woman, daddys boy. you arent used to that sort of thing. lol, yes, well you were not cognizant back then,

@rafferty if it's because she's a woman why would I support Tulsi. And what do my cognizant abilities have to do with your girl Hillary arm n arm with Trump? And I love you're attempt to take a pot shot at my relationship with my dads...Are you a homophobe like your girl Hillary?

@josh23452 so what? its a picture. hil is a master diplomat, and can make that gorilla get on one knee outside of all this, and has.

im sorry that you don't understand the dod you worked for doesnt care and for decades hated and still hates peoples sex life stuff. it would rather not acknowledge gays, trans, people getting raped, people out tailhooking, etc. people don't realize that dadt was a compromise with the gay hatin' joint chiefs, best that could be done. know who brought all that stuff up? where those ideas to deal with those things came from? do you think they came from Bill? Really? lol...

@josh23452 "shes just plain awful..ewww. cooties' lol

yes, this seems well thought out.

@rafferty You're right it's a picture of Hillary at Trumps wedding...Shes a master diplomat that lost to the gorilla you mention..Theres your girl Hillary and her thoughts on gay marriage... Took her a while didn't it?

@josh23452 nope, you of course think she is because the mayor of gaytown with a mostly gay constituency since the 60s had a pride parade in like 85, so that makes him Harvey Milk. your dads got you jacked up against hillary on this marriage thing, which passed in ny pretty quick, and id guess dadt. some hobo senator from vermont ended up the gatekeeper of all that is progressive

Compared to Hillary, Bernie has shown way more support for not only LGBT right a but the rights of all Americans.

Also check your facts..Hillary was the senator of NY till 2009...Gay marriage in NY passed in 2011..So what exactly does she have to so with that.

Oh and you mentioned earlier that Hillary has done her best to back away from her time as a Goldwater girl

Time index 1.25 she seems very proud of it.

@josh23452 there is nothing to support with tulsi. tulsi works for Don.

@josh23452 im pretty sure tulsi and captain phasma are interchangeable for you.

@rafferty How so? Prove it? Do just say anyone who doesn't support Hillary supports Trump?

Here ya go here's proof against anything you might mention

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@josh23452 yup, i lived in ny back then and watched all of that. while working on it. yup, you should have seen America 'evolve' on it. Look how evolved Don is on it, lol.

You also seem to be concerned that she is running again, and delight in her losing to Don, like you and your folks will end up getting something good from it, which is funny. You wouldnt even get that from Tulsi, if she would manage to place.

@rafferty you still haven't mentioned how Tulsi is working for Trump...And No I don't want Hillary to run at all..Afterall she has lost twice tactically it's better to start backing a better horse...

@josh23452 no he hasnt. he has merely talked. talking is equal to 'fighting' for you. Hil's program actually saved me and my kid from being wrecked with his heathcare costs, and i get this dickhead from kentucky, whos taxes i pay and whos state i subsidize saying im on welfare while working two jobs back then. Bernie hasnt done shit but add more guns to America and then turn up the woo. Woo just for men, lol.

@josh23452 i don't care what hil was doing at 14. that it is an issue, or being made an issue shows what sort of hurtin chumps were working with here.

im 100% sure that bernie was not arm in arm with mlk, carrying his extra dreams for him. He was a dorky flower power kid from midwood that did not stay and enact revolution there, it was too hard, so he left for hippie disneyland in vermont, where people are fewer and less working class Brooklyn Navy Yard, and will listen to some goon about 'class struggle'.

@rafferty when you say Bernie has added more guns to America, do you mean like when in 2004 Hillary voted against keeping the assault rifle ban that Bill Clinton signed in 1994? You know who voted to keep it around? Bernie

@josh23452 pretty sure you signed up to please one of your dads, now you get why hillary was campaigning for Barry Goldwater. at 14. what were you into back in 2004? Were you a dedicated civil rights champion, out fighting racism and getting stepped on by horses, getting thrown in prison by the klan at 14?

@josh23452 bernie wasnt back then either. he was a student in chicago, he picketed a student union with racist housing setup, got gently lifted off the ground by two policemen and given a talking to. its not like hes John Lewis or something, out betting his ass beat in every town down south and thrown in jail, lol. cmon.

@rafferty actually as I said before I was the head of my schools Gay,Straight alliance which made me very popular seeings how I was at a school in South Carolina,I was just starting to get heavily involved with performing in and volunteering with the local community theatres and helping with the youth classes. Oh and I was a member of the student council and the International Thespian Society.

@josh23452 ever gone to burlington, midwood, or places like that? you should. go live in vt for like 6 months. outside of the beauty, you wouldnt want Bernie running a popcorn maker, lol.

@rafferty oh and there's Bernie Sanders getting arrested at a civil rights rally.

@josh23452 so, like bea arthur stuff, getting gay kids kicked out of thier homes , homes, or just school drama club? Geez, that mustve been tough back in sc back in 2004, as a teenager.

@rafferty ya know what he may have his faults but if pick him over Hillary and I pick Tulsi over both of em because at the end of the day

Neither Bernie or Tulsi has acted against gay rights
Bernie voted against the Iraq war,Tulsi fought in it and Hillary voted for it.

Tulsi voted for better gun control, so did Bernie
Hillary voted against it back in 2004.

Oh here's Bernie defending gay rights in 1995

@josh23452 lol, no mention of george bush getting reelected back then, basically on banning gay marriage. i also worked for a large theater company back then, and the thespians i worked with for years n years were all 'fuck this country!' and our senator's name didnt come up once. Her office being down the street.

@rafferty you obviously don't know why they call the south the bible belt. And are activities usually included simple things..Giving the LGBT kids a place to hangout and friends in an otherwise hostile school/community..Creating a dialogue between them and anyone who was otherwise ignorant of the LGBT lifestyle...Not to mention walking to classes with our LGBT students who were often the focus of violence and bullying..Reaching out to other groups in the area outside of school so that places that didn't have such a group kids would still have an open space and group to be themselves...We even organized a couple of dances that were open to LGBT couples since most schools in those areas tend to discourage them. And that's just the beginning.

So as humble as the work is I think compared to Hillary working(and being quite proud of) with Barry Goldwater,my work is a just a teensy bit more on the progressive side.

Also as far as my work in the theatre, do you know the benefits getting involved with the arts can have on a kid?

@josh23452 nope, im saying there is no supporting hillary, its too late for that. you are justifying your dropping the ball. there is no supporting tulsi, either. i do not have tulsi people breaking the door down, covering the place with tulsi stickers and giving me a tulsi tshirt. Nope. Tulsi is indignant and all that, but theres no vision. you were ok with bernie people calling some grandma a cunt but now youre ok here or something, sure man. is she offering free weed?

@josh23452 hil isnt running, the assault weapons ban extention you are lamenting was voted against for very good reasons, the bill was so compromised as to make it non effective. its why the nra was very worried about hil winning

@rafferty How exactly did I drop the ball? I think Bernie calling someone a cunt is a bit more excusable than the snafus Hillary has made.

@rafferty you're right she's not running But in regards to the o.p my point all along is that people just need to drop her and find someone new.

@josh23452 as your voter bloc has demonstrated, boys are uncomfortable with a scolding, smart, lady that they think will tell them to eat thier peas and carrots, and so here we are.... if hil can't do it, Tulsi sure as heck won't do it, even if she wears a bikini the whole time. You have no idea how fucked up America is, lol.

@rafferty see you go from making a statement to alluding I must of voted Republican and therefore don't like women in power..Your argument is..Obtuse and doesn't really make any sense...When you say smart lady

Is it really smart to announce our response to a nuclear attack on live t.v?

@josh23452 'ill be rigĥt back, 50s mom and dad, im just going to put my cotillion gloves on and go get arrested at the civil rights rally, ok?'

'ok, hillary, we'll call the mental hospital and get ready to have you committed, assuming you are not raped or killed by rednecks, see you later!"

'thanks so much, dad, i knew youd understand, you are so progressive!'

'you too, my 14 year old minor daughter! '

no inkling at how silly you sound here? lol.
you have the benefit of being a boy-man, and living now, not back then.

@josh23452 what is this 'nuclear attack' stuff you are going on about? You were in the nNavy right? Pretty sure you know and Putin knows that 1 sub from us is all it takes as far as life on earth goes. Use that 4 minutes to kiss your ass goodbye in, lol

@josh23452 bernie hasnt called anyone a cunt. his followers have though, while trying to come off as all woke and extra, and being all progressive. A bunchnof neckbeards that don't know how to vote calling some grandma a cunt. Calling Bernie an old cunt is funny, and just sounds british. doing it to hilllary saws her right off at the legs, like calling Obama an N, which is an everyday thing for both where you are from.

@josh23452 its for these reasons that i can trash your fake political concerns everytime. you are just some poser

@josh23452 id work on your states awful infant mortality rate, std rate, teen pregnancy, rate, hate crime rate, civil rights record, problems with starting/accepting the civil war, before you try to throw rocks at My Girl. Oh, youre from SC? you should have just opened with that, lol. Im sorry for you, man. You don't know anything but voting against your own interests. We live in different worlds. I live in the non snakehandlin world, sorry.

@josh23452 oh im sorry, hillary isnt running for anything. im just watching younhave a temper tantrum about her not 'going away' or something, lol.

@josh23452 i don't have to allude to anything. your state went to Don, lol. durr

@rafferty your temper tantrum has been big enough for the both of us sir..The fact that anyone would dare speak against Hillary.. You started the tantrum when you made your first response to statement about preferring someone else.. and every time you defended your gal,you've proven yourself just as bad as the average Trumper...They too like to look past his faults and try to shift focus by pointing out when other politicians have made mistakes as opposed to admitting there's a problem..

Actually I think it's hilarious you criticize my work with the gay community when I was younger while defending Hillary's work witj an anti-civil rigjts senator.. I might not be perfect but i can at least day I mever campaigned against the civil rights of another human being...

And yep even though Hillary isn't running I'd like her to go away...Its annoying to hear her constantly whine about losing...You know who didnt wrote an entire book about losing? Bernie.

How many Russian states did Don win? No, sorry, not sure whats wrong with adults that they cannot say " oh look, an invalid, tampered with, election. Time for Don Trump to go to prison."

@jorj primaries are a bunch of bullshit. Play elections. The bernie people and redhat peoples behavior during it was like woodstock 99 or nascar shit. So sad. This is the free hugs guy stopping to ask a little noy if he is ok after a mob ripped up his sign and screamed "fuck you!!!" at him. It was fucking gross.

@jorj not sure where you are trying to go with this "crying" stuff, buddy. What would you do if Don say, went to prison or was not in office anymore? Just as a question? Would you cry?

@jorj no, captain capslock, i don't accept the rsults of some tampered with election resulting in this buffoon that is unfit for office. Im sorry you think this is appropriate, edgelord.

@jorj psst. Link to some conservative rag. Do much better with me

@jorj nothing was rigged. its sorta like trying to stuff bitcoins in a gumball machine, john galt. You have to know whats going on. if you want America to have a parliament of green and purple people, the time to do that is 50 years ago, and not october 2016.

if you got a choice between red and blue, but you show up nobly voting for vermillion, that is just special, but you get told go go f yourself. in the general, votin for gary perot, or writing in your grandpa is a wasted voted and youre part of the problem...

@jorj wow, don is a 'lesser evil' lol... ok.. lesser than what? Caliguhitler? Get a hold of yourself.

@jorj don is like tinkerbell. you have to believe in him or he can't do his job and tweets angrily at meryl streep.

@jorj im not sure what operation mockingbird is supposed to be, but it sure souounds like alex jones shit to me.

sorry, in the non cartoon world, America has a two party system. viable political parties take decades to develop. this is to keep jill stein from doing anything involving decisions for masses of people.

@jorj more actual people voted for hillary than for don. don does not give a shit about working people. nor do anymof these other crackpots that offer nothing

@jorj 'democrats shouldve done this, democrats should have done that...' independents should fuck on off to smurf village, or join for real if they want some sort of voice. id say its more of a vote and stfu thing, though, for you. you arent really needed that much. there are three younger and much smarter voters behind you that sure do hate trump, lol

@jorj no man, it switched, were on operation cockatoo now... ffs..

@jorj lol, tell george soros he owes me 40 bucks.

what is all this 'generation stuff you keep tryi thing to throw at me, moonbeam? im way more of a radical than you, you wanted some other old white guy.

@jorj please post the link where you heard this. where you first heard this from.

@jorj stop trying to act like youre smarter than i am.

@jorj i mean, maybe you arent into god or something, but fuck off if youre a liberal, lol. 'ithink 90% of what he does is hilarious..' hyuk. shhh now. i think i hear them taking a statue down...

@jorj about operation chinchilla

@jorj i mean, i can totally see why a liberal from kentucky wouldnt hate trump, and think hes funny 90% of the time. it just makes sense. liberals are like that.

@jorj idk, you pretty much came off as a moron in this, saying a bunch of bullshit, and no way are you a liberal. no one said anything about politically correct or blind following, lol. youre just not one. that you even said politically correct at all, lol. take it from a sheep that knows when he sees a muttonhead

@jorj thats right, speak of lefties, the left and sheep, and do left wing liberal stuff like that, mr. Liberal non trump supporter, lol. Seems legit.

@jorj i only admit to keeping you in chains with political correctness buddy. And keeping you oppressed with identity politics. Everyone getting healthcare and the education you didnt get was just a side thing. What i really wanted was for you to have an immigrant level job that you are unable and unwilling to do.

@jorj i don't understand why you as a liberal wouldnt be helping me push my pc agenda. Is it because most berniedudebros are mac users? Oh sorry, wrong pc. I know how you rebels are so anti corporatism, lol

@jorj with bernie, its not operation mockingbird (lol) but id definitely say cointelpro. Theyd go to bernie as a student and say " youre a great speaker, bernie. Heres what you do. Never give up. Keep on keepin on with the revolution stuff from the 60s, even when you don't have a job and live in a shack, leave the rest to us..."

@jorj thats why, if you asked bernie who Al k. Lowenstien is, youd find that he was his "mentor", and that mr. Lowenstien was murdered, shot, by a lone crazyman with no past and no family. Hmmm... Lol..

@jorj so it would be easy to set "flower person" Bernie up to be a classic CIA pied piper under how the very real cointelpro program worked (its how they caught half of the weather underground people) and you two pigeons are certainly behaving as very willing mice, lol.

Ask yourself: how would some crackpot mayor of the liberty party be allowed to go back and forth to nicuragua, cuba, russia, during a very hot cold war, during the Reagan era? Lol, i can tell you... "Allowed to" because he is an asset. An intel asset.

@jorj remember when i asked "where was bernie during the 80s?" no, for real, go have a look. Good luck!

@jorj i realized that you got democrats, liberals.. then you got woo based voters that are displaced ron paul voters, disgraced bush voters, ralph nader fans, bob barr nutjobs, all thinking that they got a do over with bernie, but then they have to talk, and its 'trump is great.. i luv me some gunz... ' lol. yknow. left wing stuff like that thar, pardner.

@jorj no need to 'cover up' rush limbaugh 'facts', bro. theyre worthless, like you voting for jill because youre all woke and luv don, lol

@jorj I can predict pretty sure that your state will go for Don. You of course can afford to vote for a Green Party candidate, and then try to preach at me about poor people, unions, how i should vote, that its all my fault, make up some agitprop stuff from youtube about Hillary, that doesn't matter because she's not running for anything, and is just some woman speaking and that makes you uncomfortable or mad.

Like any GOP lapdog, you are trying to lay some sort of groundwork here with all this alleged wrongdoing by inferring that this great lady is some criminal, while of course downplaying the most corrupt administration in history as no big deal, you don't care, and you can live with it. Of course you can, White dude from the south. You can just put your red hat on and all is well. Its not like youre brown or a lady with a funny SJW haircut or anything, or a lesbian, or a transexual, or a Syrian refugee, or Mexican guy, working chopping celery lol. You can afford to piss your vote over the fence on some half assed nonsense and then try to cop it like youre all woke. Stop voting your flawed conscience. You are mistaking it with your ego.

At least you spared me a "I am a True Liberal" speech.

@jorj You don't seem to get that you ar for Don by NOT voting blue. Wishing for a magical political alternative that runs on dreams and rainbows is not a viable alternative. I am not going to go to the polls next time, and Vote for Hillary, lol. Hillary will not be running.

I won't be voting for any clown that doesnt have any substance behind them, and doesnt have a plan. Bernie had nothing. He had lofty speeches, and nothing behind them. Anyone can make empty promises, true progress requires WORK.

@jorj no one is shouting, who needs to, you poor victim of "reverse racism", lol. How does that work? Black people all get together as a 77% majority somehow and deny you housing, employment, or a bank loan?

The reason you say "the lefties" is because um, youre not one? But call yourself a "liberal". I'll throw 5 bucks at youre an "atheist" to "meet chicks with loose morals" and are a baptist or some shit, lol

@jorj "being white and male don't give anyone no privledge over anyone else"

Lol, ok.. Maybe you should move....

@jorj you are the one living in "one drop theory county" and saying this to me, lol. By all means, kickass progressive, please start in your hokey red state preaching this bullshit and turn it green (nope) or blue (yes) and then get back to me.

Nope, no need to for anyone to experience oppression at all. You being told by other adults to "stop saying n around me" is not the same as you being denied a job because youre black. You struggle with understanding what systemic racism is, since you put the system in place and don't know any different.

A Black Lives Matter person is there saying "please do not shoot my child while he is playing cops n robbers" and your response is "oh ALL lives matter! Dont be so uppity! My kids play with guns all the time, and its fine..."

@jorj i see. Its actually me telling Hillary to "Go Away", and you are just above it all, for your backup Putin happy candidate spraypainted a bulldozer. You think and have stated that an oppressor that coddles torch carrying nazis on american streets is "funny 90% of the time" , but i am subjecting you to some form of brutal "reverse racism", and can control what 77% of a population does. 30-35% of them still think Obama is from Kenya, and snuck into being president as a baby, and lots of whatever you are claiming to be also talk shit about him as well, but of course youll see fit to lecture me on racism too. I saw the same bullshit in NYC when mayor Dinkins was followed by Tooliani. Ypipo were swearing that they were victims of something, but when they articulated it, they sounded like Don, lol

@jorj you go ahead and find common ground with Richard Spencer and dudes that love Roy Moore and can call Hillary a c and Obama an N, or makedeath threats to those Parkland kids. It is as I said. I vote for results, you vote for your ego. At least some dummy redhat can take a side, and can stop fronting like they can be peacemaker with morons that laugh and clap about killing old people and sick poor people by messing with healthcare.

Im sorry, oh great humanitarian, sir. This "its all your fault, liberal!" and the "i don't care about your feelings, libtard snowflake!" and the other nonsense you and your redhat allies are trying to front have hardened my heart. Wont get much cooperation from me or get me into bed with pro life, pro gun, pro god dingleberries of any sort. Anti oppression coming up!

@jorj most redhats try to take a shot at my cat, for some reason. They think they are alpha dog people after watching jordan peterson videos or something (who also denies that white people have got some perks) My cat has a job. Do you?

Not sure why youre all bugging, and saying i am using tactics, and am responsible for don, because you feel agryand set upon by evil liberals keeping you from speaking freely, by all means, talk all you want about reverse racism, and how people are sheep, and how ypipo that can go to any college and go fet any job got it so rough. You keep talking about facts. How come 96% of prosecutors are white? Must be a fluke, lol. Along with all those black dudes doing up to 25 for a joint. Lol.

Im sorry you are deluded to think you are not in either party, but youre in the wrong state for that. You also don't seem to understand how elections work. Writing in yourself or voting for Ross Johnsonstein is a wasted vote, therefore a vote for Trump, and a vote against your own intrestwith dumb white dude, you of course think you can "live with it", as you are a poorly informed low information voter.

I neverclaimed to beyour"superior", i jjus know how america works, and also that you arent some bipartisan humanitarian. I can back up whatever i say, easy, and could give a shit what "others" you cowardly hint at might think. If they arent voting blue ro stop trump, they are as dumb as you are. Trump needs to be stopped and shit needs to get fixed. No one is interested in watxhing fucking crackpors experiment with how to govwrn 375 million people. Its great that youre a republican that smokes reefer or something. I can be right up friont about being a liberal democrat. You are some bullshit woo peddler, not even worth it for me to "hate". You somehow made it to adulthood.

@jorj do you want to have a mock election? I'll bet i'll win. I want to put people back to work growing reefer, lol.

@jorj you deserve to be insulted, trumpie gun nut

@jorj i can quote what youre NOT saying, with all your bullshit about "the lefties" and such. Im sorry you don't like the "us and them" environmemt you are all set with and were part of creating.. You live in a state my taxes pay for with just my county, so write in whoever you like, its unlikely Kentucky will be blue or green un the next 150 years.

@jorj you started out marginalized. There were two sides to vote for in this election, you thought, like many, that you could make a third one, but making a third one, just made a trump one, and all of this tapdancing you are trying to do is you rationalizing that choice, and saying that you were not complicit in that and saying its "my fault" or something, lol. Sure, man. You may give me a good scolding all you want about being Arrogant or whatever, but ive never had some green party person show up at my door with some detailed platform packet. its always been some thrown together bullshit that ends up in a parking lot. No thank you. I have kids, and they have a future ahead of them that is more important that either one of us.