I will never vote for a republican or a conservative again.

Well I like her now.

mostly X. even if that machine keeps circulating the blood.......sorry. you meant Liz. shit if trump can win anything can happen can't it.

I think she's trying to save the Republican Party and make herself the leader.

Crappy idea - IMHO. She is her dad's daughter, voted for all the odious potus agendas the whole time is fat white ass was wedged onto the WH. Remember it was John McCain who saved the Affordable Care Act,not Liz.
Not even as a vice president. It did not work out in 1865 and we have already seen the agenda of the gop is to take the country back to the early 1990s.
No we need a real strong candidate that both sides and progressives can support. THAT is the hard part and real issue.

Lincoln's vice-presidential switch changed history
By JULES WITCOVER
|NOV 16, 2014

CHICAGO--The other day I found myself at the famous Abraham Lincoln Bookshop here, talking about my latest effort, a history on the evolution of the American vice presidency. The visit brought to mind a little-discussed Lincoln story in the book that I will convey here in necessarily abbreviated form.

In 1864, as Lincoln faced the challenge of re-election and the Civil War still raged, he decided unbeknownst to his first-term vice president, Hannibal Hamlin of Maine, to replace him for his second term with a Southern War Democrat -- that is, a Democrat who had opposed secession from the Union.

Lincoln feared that without Southern support, he would lose the election before he could see the war through to victory and save the Union. So he turned to his military governor in Tennessee, U.S. Sen. Andrew Johnson. He was a stalwart Unionist who had declared, "If anything be treason, is not levying war upon the United States treason?" But he also was sympathetic to the Southern ways that accommodated slavery, and therein was the rub.

Hamlin, by contrast, was staunchly anti-slavery, having early on urged Lincoln to issue an emancipation proclamation. So when he was dropped from the Republican ticket (temporarily renamed the National Union Party), the decision had fateful consequences to Reconstruction policies following Lincoln's assassination and Johnson's elevation to the presidency.

Hamlin went to the Republican National Convention assuming he would be renominated, with full support of all the New England states. But on the first roll call, he won only 150 votes to 200 for Johnson, and before the second was called a flood of delegates switched to Johnson, assuring his nomination.

On taking the presidency following Lincoln's death, Johnson brushed aside proposals from Congress for bringing the Southern states back into the Union and undertook his own "presidential reconstruction." It bent over backward to restore much of the Old South, including returning property other than slaves to the former Confederates.

Northern Radical Republicans were outraged, demanding action against Johnson. In late 1865, they created a congressional reconstruction committee rivaling Johnson's own, and passed new laws extending the life and powers of a Freedmen's Bureau protecting the freed blacks. But Johnson vetoed them, leading ultimately to impeachment charges against him.

The formal allegation was that he had violated a new Tenure of Office act in firing Lincoln's secretary of war, Edwin Stanton, attempting to replace him with General U.S. Grant, hero of the Civil War. The House unanimously voted impeachment charges against Johnson, but he was acquitted by a single vote in the Senate.

Hamlin vowed he had not been told by Lincoln of the plan to drop him from the ticket in 1864. When a friend informed him much later that Lincoln had told him personally of his intent, he replied, "I am sorry you told me that." Hamlin subsequently told his wife he would not "ask favor of the Administration to prevent me from going to the poor house. So, you see, I have some pride."

In the campaign of 1864, however, he was asked to campaign for the Lincoln-Johnson ticket, and he agreed. "I had hoped sincerely," he told his wife, "that they would let me off, but as they do not I am unwilling to refuse, as they would attribute it to my disappointment, which is not the case."

Lincoln, for his part, insisted he had tried to get Hamlin back into the Senate, reportedly telling him: "You have not been treated right. It is too bad, too bad. But what can I do? I am tied hand and foot."

In the end, it fell to Hamlin as the outgoing vice president to escort Johnson to the 1865 inaugural ceremony, at which the new vice president disgraced himself with rambling remarks, apparently in a drunken state.

Hamlin's demise marked an unfortunate turn of history that might well have changed the course of the critical Reconstruction of the South after the Civil War. Sharing Lincoln's abhorrence of slavery as he did, one can only speculate on how as president Hamlin might have smoothed the path to reconciliation with the South in that turbulent period of the nation's history.

As the Republican nominee I assume?
I don't really see how that's possible.

I don’t know her position on anything other than Jan6, but she is obviously going to have broad appeal going forward because of her demonstrated ability to put truth ahead of tribal loyalty. These days that might eclipse most other issues.

YES!!!!!!!