I still say chivalry originated as a dom/sub display related to power and sex. As to if that has changed or not, I don’t know. I think it is on its way out due to feminism bringing more equality to socialization. It is a power trip in place to promote dominance through manners, and if that’s not sexually based, idk what is. As far as individual instances, it doesn’t have to reflect on the institution as a whole.
i don't & never did care for all that so-called chivalrous behaviour. it makes me cringe for its sexual innuendo, coming from strangers. if nothing else but the fact that i have boobs causes men to become gentlemen, then i don't want it. humanity as such has to get over gender role behaviour & advance to something more wholesome: kindness, indiscriminate & unconditional.
It is not sexual innuendo, it is plain good manners
@walklightly
IHave now edited it. See you ar sacastic too ?
@VAL3941, it is not plain good manners if directed only at women - then it becomes a discriminate genderism.
@walklightly
Who ever said it should be only be directed to females ???
@VAL3941, i actually can't imagine that you even tried to read the original post by @NothinnXpreVails, let alone understand its meaning or the meaning of chivalry. for this reason i appreciate it if you would cease to keep this thread (my comment) going with your passive-aggressive remarks, tiring as they are. please do NOT reply.
I like a well mannered male or female. I like having my chair pulled out and doors opened for me. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone and I know it's not my age range as I've heard the same from 20 somethings
I enjoy holding doors, seats, getting car doors, I think there’s something to that. But looking into the root of the behavior relative to humanity’s customs and rituals, I think it is based in extremely primal instincts. I do not subscribe to the notion that each individual act of chivalry is intended to send mating signals or be a display of dominance, but I do hypothesize that the behavior has a much more complex origin, perhaps even a dark origin of subjugation. I need a sociologist, lol
@NothinnXpreVails I hear you
I'll think more on it
@NothinnXpreVails
So you practice it but agree with it ???
@VAL3941 I was just contemplating the origin of the custom
@NothinnXpreVails
OK ! Sorry, Google it !
@VAL3941 if I googled everything, there would be no conversation
@NothinnXpreVails
Didn't mean immediately. When you have a free moment ?
@VAL3941 hahhahahaha
@NothinnXpreVails
Lol, you haveca rawcus laugh !, ??
Interesting observation, I will mull over that.
Women love chivalrous men. Take that from someone who practices it all the time !
you don't know me
@walklightly Then why shoukd I be chivilrous towards you???
@VAL3941 LOL! please, don't
@walklightly
So let me get thus straight. you want me to treat you like a piece of dirt ???
@VAL3941, ah, sorry, i wasn't aware that dualism is still valid among the enlightened
@walklightly
Dualism has no place here. Either younlike it or you don't. Stop sitting on the fence and make a choice !
@VAL3941, now you don't sound very chivalrous at all - rather demanding, apart from not getting it: claiming to know what women want, & when i don't conform offering one nasty alternative; if that's not dualism of the most primal kind, i don't know what is.
@walklightly
So we agree to disagree ?