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IF you found out a CEO was very open about being religious, but explicitly said that they wouldn't consider an employee's faith stance in terms of hiring and employment, would you be ambivalent or less likely to patronage their business?

secularjason 5 Apr 28
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I don't give a damn what people BELIEVE - just how they BEHAVE.

Now admittedly, I think it would be better for them and their children if their minds were rational rather than delusional - but the bottom line is that as long as they don't act unjustly and unfairly then their religion is almost immaterial.

One problem with this approach is that not all that behavior is public. For example, their business-to-business practices might favor other businesses with religious CEOs. Plus, there could be a preference in hiring that also wouldn't be obvious to the public. (I used to work for a company that I now realize did both these things, and I might even have been pushed out due to my agnosticism.)

@bingst Indeed there is always the danger of deception and 'hidden bias' - but there are almost two questions here:-

  1. ASSUMING they were unbiased and fair, would that be acceptable?

  2. How SURE can you be that they ARE unbiased and fair?

You can answer the first with certainty - even if you cannot be sure about the second.

Spot on. "They wouldn't consider an employee's faith stance in terms of hiring and employment" The reason that's important to me because whilst I object to religious privilege I value tolerance of belief. And it's exactly because I value tolerance of belief I won't be intolerant of of the CEO's belief.

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Depends. I won't eat a Chik Fil A and I shop at Target not Wal-Mart. It's what they support that I pay attention to. As well as how they treat their employees.

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I'm fine with being faithful but I have a problem when they use faith to advertise their business.

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I don't care if people are religious. It's their choice. As long as they don't care if I'm non-religious, we can be besties...bff's. There are lots of 'high level' CEO's who are very openly Republican (most often the religiously affiliated party) and/or religious this way or that way and I'm fine with that. As long as I don't perceive any discrimination, they're free to worship that unicorn all they like.

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religion is not a question you can ask a potential employee,

Legally, you are correct. That doesn't stop it though.

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I would frequent the business as long as the evidence backed up his rhetoric.

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I've been the boss for most of my career and an Atheist for all of it, I wouldn't put up with any sort of fundamentalist religious nuts but other than that it would be none of my business what an employee believes in. That said I have come across plenty of fundamentalist clients who I wouldn't do business with and I would certainly never want to be their employee. They lie and don't even realize it because they are delusional.

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Much less likely. I don't want to give an religutard my money.

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alot of ceos are psychopaths as they have no fear. cross that with a fundamentalist and that is one powerful person. still the share holders would want the best brains regardless of affiliation and that is who he / she answers to.

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It would not matter to me unless the person brought his or her relifion into the operation of the business and public pronouncements about it.

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It wouldn't bother me

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I would be more likely to patronize their business if their employees supported that claim. I know a woman that is a devote Catholic that hired a Mormon. I think it should not matter if the CEO was openly Pagan or homosexual or whatever they choose to identify with that does not promote harming others. Everyone should have the right to just be who they are without fear of repercussions from those that have opposing views. Not patronizing the business would be prejudiced. Now if the CEO starts demanding people attend bible studies or lecturing people on their choices, then no I would not go there and they would be told exactly why.

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Less likely.

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If there as a product of similar value for a reasonable price I might shop elsewhere. I don't want to know what other's religion is.
Years ago I got business because a competitor was putting religious pamphlets in the boxes of industrial temperature sensors and controls. Our products were similar and he gave me a try. ONe of the reasons was the religious thing. He wasn't anti-religion, but this was at work and he didn't want to "see that junk" at work.

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That is just another form of bigotry.

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When you say "open," do you mean open the way a gay person is open about who he is? There's nothing wrong with being honest about ourselves, or our values. As long as it's just treated as a part of who he is and not forced on the rest of us, I say, let your flag fly.

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As long as they walk the walk, I don't care.

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As long as there weren't any discrimination, I wouldn't care.

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Less likely. I don't believe in rewarding bad behavior.

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Legally, they can't take faith into consideration in hiring. It's against the law. They can't even ask you about your religion. That being said, I'm sure it happens.

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That would not bother me at all.

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Its business so all good

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