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Religions origins.

This came up in a debate, and I thought it worth posting. A bit long, sorry, but you may be bored over the next couple of days.

Most theories of religion's history, and its early evolutionary origin, seem to miss one big elephant in the room. Which is that, the need, which religion is most designed to answer, is not that of, health and long life, living together without conflict, nor even remotely, long term survival. But it originally existed mainly to answer, by far the biggest and overwhelming human need of all, the need to avoid boredom. Before tourism, TV, and film etc., by far the greatest use that people make of religion, myth and story telling, even more than all its other uses together, was simply that of amusement. Myth and stories occupy down time, with interest and excitement, and most religious rituals are designed primarily as theater for amusement.

And not long ago, amusement came to be needed ever more, following the agricultural revolution. When an ape, who was adapted to the endless variations of hunting and gathering, came to swap those for either the drudgery of farming, or becoming one of the small number of, (Largely males.) who thanks to the new wealth agriculture created, found themselves, both very rich and very idle indeed. As no hunter gatherer could ever be.

Which often sadly, despite the glorification of kindness that many religions pretend, means that our boredom, more than anything else, drove them to extremes of cruelty, bullying, exploitation and even violence. Which things, religion, as the great provider of entertainment, renders easy, by acting as a great enabler, (As in pimp.) so that crude things are made much easier to access, than finding more kind, intelligent and even, sometimes, less self harming, but more challenging, forms of entertainment.

The misogyny, for example, found in many theist religions, is no doubt the result of pandering to bored, idle and stupid, rich men. Who, since they no longer needed women, mainly, as equal partners in the hunting, and survival. Now thought that they could turn them into toys for amusement, to be bullied and sexually exploited, because lacking imagination they could think of nothing more useful to do. And what better weapon to use, to gain those ends, than mental indoctrination. The power of religion in other words.

Theism was originally, and is still largely today, part of the of the entertainments economy, and often, despite its pretensions, at the bottom end of that industry. Getting your political and moral values from it, is therefore, is really very like, getting them from B. movies and porn sites. You may find a few good moral lessons there, but a lot more which is not so good.

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Interesting idea, but I certainly don't think religion only exists because of boredom, or religion probably wouldn't exist today, at least to any measurable extent. I think it was originally more of a way of dealing with suffering, fear, and death, as it largely is today. And few people seeking entertainment today first think of going to church....boring!

No I do not say "only", or even mainly perhaps. Yet maybe that is in part why the Christian church lost its way, because it became boring. But go to a Catholic or Hindu festival, and it clearly exists for entertainment, Islamic ritual obviously is a time wasting indulgence. While if the catholic festival is one of penance, the show of blood and pain is obviously in many ways both a vanity project, and an entertainment for the onlookers.

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Boring read, except completely wrong. Violence doesn't enamate from boredom, but from anger. Serious lack of emotional intelligence.

No I think that is far too simplistic. Violence, like most things has multiple and complex roots and rarely will two acts of violence have the same mixture in their formation. Certainly, sadistic violence, directed often at the helpless, is motivated by much more than simple anger. I do not think, for example, that the Romans who visited the arena, to watch the violence there, were much motivated by anger. While much of the fictional violence in the media, like film and books which helps to normalize violence and make it seem less horrific, is there purely as entertainment.

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Real entertainment.

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Yes, I do think that religion has enabled porn sites to be so popular, over simple eroticism, since it's accepted and even preferable for the religious to have someone to look down on, abuse, blame, etc., rather than see as equal, respect worthy, admirable, partners in their world.

How we spend our idle time likely does shape our outlook far more than I've considered before. Movies, novels, television, music, the arts influence our thoughts, for sure. I likely choose to fill my idle time in far more tame ways than most, and I'm sure that feeds my personality differently than those who fill their time with cut-throat boldness and aggression.

I've never considered church and religious events to be an enjoyable way to pass the time, with so many more fun and inspiring ways to fill a Sunday morning.

I've also never found much kindness or tips for living harmoniously with others actually being discussed in the bible.

A church/religion of kindness where lessons could be learned for getting on better with other humans and our environment is more what society needs, over the rehashing and retelling of all the horrific things in the bible, and the praising a deity who thinks all that is good.

Unfortunately there are a lot of of people, who unlike you, do find entertainment in the horrific, as well as the cruel. And the morally empty world of the entertainments industry, including and especially religion, is more than willing to supply the goods.

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Interesting food for thought!

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A bit long!? That’s a short story for you!? 🤠

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At least you know where I go for my Sermons?!😇

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