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Long but cogent analysis of why Trump is going to get reelected, and what a nightmare it's going to be. I myself might face deportation under Trump II. Convince me otherwise.

The U.S. Bourgeois Democracy Farewell Tour
[counterpunch.org]

Druvius 8 Feb 2
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The asshole wont live to see the day

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Doug (aka @Druvius), trying to convince you otherwise would waste my time. I have more important stuff (winning stuff) to do.

@Druvius B-effing-S. In a few minutes I will block your shit until November

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Me too. I definitely would be the type he would either put into camps or deport.

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A large percentage of Americans are very strange people. All round the world people are fighting dictatorships to bring democracy and in America people are fighting democracy to bring a dictatorship.

Not just strange people, they are stupid, fearful, and hateful..

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I don’t think it’s a given that Trump will win. The closer we get to the election the pushback against him is just going to intensify. I’m definitely skeptical of a lot of these polls and opinion pieces.

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If the orange turd does get back into the white house, the country will survive him again. Might be only half a country, but it will survive. And fix whatever he fracks up again. Sometimes you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater...

@Druvius I would be ok with that, if it was limited to only a number of states, and they left the rest of the country alone, and I would be willing to move away to be in one of the states they don't control.

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America does seem to be on a path to self destruction. The impact on all of us will be huge and appalling. A global realignment of the world's most important 'democracy' ( so called ) towards the world's authoritarians. As a student of history I see this as a result of American corrupt systems, especially since the 80s, and a bit of bad karma ( consequences) of American post WW2 imperial fantasies, including interfering the world with impunity while allowing the homeland to decay, both physically and systemically. Perhaps an American dark age will produce a struggle which will rejuvenate America, but I don't care to live through it. What is so disturbing to me is not the fascist wing of the Republican party -- it's always been there -- nor the fascist elites within the American ruling class-- they've always been there, including supporting the Nazi's in the 1930s until they suddenly became patriotic and supported the American war effort after Pearl Harbor. No, what's shocking to me is watching ordinary poor MAGA Americans, poor, powerless, stupid, ignorant, and dillusional clamouring for authoritarianism. The WW2 generation, mostly gone, would be appalled. Those who forget history, or are too stupid to learn it, will have to repeat it, and the consequences will be on all of us, not just Americans.

From my local perspective, Australia, as Australia is up America's butt, and has been since 1941, with both our major parties snivelling for Yankee approval, I wonder what will happen if America goes rogue fascist. Our snivelling politicians cannot be trusted to have the balls to challenge America. But Australians might just stand up, like they did against the Vietnam War. I was one of them, though a teenager. Back on the streets again after 54 years. I'd be there. I called out Yankee bullshit 54 years ago, and I'd do it again.

I totally hear and feel you, man. And if it comes to civil war, I will arm myself, learn to shoot, and be willing, for the first time in my life, to get out in the streets and fight these fascist pricks, even if it costs me my elderly life, because this is one cause worth dying for.. unlike all the wars of choice America has fought in my lifetime..

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If we lose our country to Dump, it WILL take a revolution to get it back. Forget that one: Americans are too lazy.

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Use Bernie for evidence only AFTER you have counted how many progressives he helped win their elections. I might have missed a few but I counted ZERO.

Gail, how do we lose a country that only America’s ruling class have ever owned?

“Our Democracy” is a fiction; America has always been an oligarchy — ruled by a wealthy few.

The voters in a few mostly western states have direct democracy — the direct initiative, referendum, and recall. The voters in most states elect people who become their predators.

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Ironically I just applied for renewal of my green card. During the process, thought about deportation being a, forgive the pun, blessing!!!

I would gladly take deportation to Canada or some social democratic Euro country, lol...

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