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Louisiana has mandated a Protestant version of the Ten Commandments be displayed in schools. This is not only a clear violation of the separation of Church and State, but worse it is a violation of the 1st Amendment right to Freedom of Religion. The Protestant religion is being forced upon everyone by law. Freedom of Religion is not just for Protestants, it is for everyone, otherwise it is not freedom.

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Heraclitus 8 June 19
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As this was signed the remark was made that it really had more to do with Moses, the great law giver. WTF? Moses never really existed.

I am not sure how you can be certain of that, but if that is the case it just makes it worse, doesn't it? So, then we have mandated fictional religion. Are you OK with that?

@Heraclitus Certain of Moses not existing or of him being a law giver? Even with that distraction out of the way the 10 Commandments has no purpose in public school systems. That is the law. We are fast moving towards a mandated fictional religion because of politics and Christian Nationalism.

I live in a Republican part of Missouri where the 10 Commandments are on our buildings at the Court House in the County Seat. Why? Equally disturbing is "In God We Trust" on the back of cop cars. Some serious minded religitard might wonder who it is that I trust in. This is like asking who you worship. Very frankly, I just do not get it any longer regardless of once being a believer. Some might even think the cops show up and like Dog the Bounty Hunter they pray before going in to get their man.

My take on it all at this point in time is a marriage of Trump politics and perceived religious beliefs of the day. This involves great deception.

@DenoPenno What bothers me the most is that the Republican Party no longer believes in the Constitution, and they don't even try to hide it.

@Heraclitus

  1. No historical mention of him or the Jewish enslavement, or the ten plagues ANYWHERE in Egyptian history,
  2. Moses is not an Hebraic name it is a a joke name in Egyptian Im Ho Sess (he who is my son) originally used in the Legend of Horus son of Osiris
  3. The whole Moses story is a bastardisation of the birth story of Horus, baby in the bull rushes, princess adopting him, growing up in the royal court with his really mom as a his nanny, growing up and leading a revolution against the Pharaoh Set his uncle and his father's murderer, after visiting a series of misfortune upon him.
  4. The impossibility of of there being ten times more Jews living in Egypt as slaves than there were people in the whole middle east at any time before the Alexander the great's invasion.

@LenHazell53 I do not believe that the Moses of Legend actually existed either, but your arguments are not entirely correct, and I happen to care about accuracy and objectivity over emotion. BTW, are you aware of the nature of ancient Egyptian history? There is no record of any Egyptian defeat in ancient Egyptian history even though we know they suffered defeats. They simply never recorded much of anything except victories and praises of Pharaohs. So, the fact that some things were never recorded in ancient Egyptian history is totally expected.

Even so, there are numerous indications that the exodus was not a total fantasy:

o Merneptah Stele: The Merneptah Stele, dated to around 1219 B.C.E., is the earliest extrabiblical record mentioning a people group called Israel. It refers to Israel as a people who were “wasted,” indicating they were not a significant threat at the time.
o Place Names: The biblical account of the Israelites building store-cities Pithom and Ramses corresponds to Egyptian place names Pi-Ramesse and Pi-Atum from the Ramesside Period (13th–11th centuries B.C.E.). This suggests that the memory of these events predates Egypt’s Third Intermediate Period.
o Archaeological Sites: Archaeological evidence, such as the remains of workers’ houses in western Thebes, may indicate the presence of proto-Israelites or a closely related population in Egypt during the 12th century B.C.E., around the time of Ramses IV.
o Historical Records: While there are no direct references to an exodus of Israelites from Egypt in Egyptian texts, there are records of individuals who fled Egypt for various reasons.

  1. Just because there is no record of the ten plagues of the Moses of Legend, does not mean that Moses the man did not actually exist.

  2. Just because Moses was not a Hebrew name, but an Egyptian name, does not mean that a man named Moses did not exist. Moses was from Egypt. It is to be expected that he had an Egyptian name. Thutmose who lived around the same time, was not a joke name, it was the patronymic name of pharaohs. It is quite possible that Moses full name was a valid patronymic Egyptian name.

  3. Yes, there are parallels, and no doubt that the legend of Horus was a basis for the legend of Moses. Yes, but that is the Legend of Moses that you are talking about. That does not mean that the man "Moses" never existed at all.

  4. I don't know where you got this from, but of course it is absurd. Exaggerations, even wild exaggerations, were common in many of the royal records in ancient middle eastern history, but that does not mean that the man Moses did not exist.

I tend to think that "Moses" actually did exist and then a legend was built up around him over the years because that is often what has happened in history. It happened with King Arthur, Confucius, the Buddha, etc. The stories made up about George Washington does not mean he didn't exist either.

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