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So...I work at a public school in a small comunity. I was passed by a friend. With disscust she says " so and so (an elementary student) asked if we come from apes". I want to tell the student that we did evolve but...
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openmind 3 Dec 10
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I'm reminded of a recent comment my eight year old daughter made.
We/I was watching a trump "press briefing" (or something like that), and he said, "It doesn't matter who you are. We all come from the same god."
My daughter gave the tv a discerning glance and said, "No. We all come from different mothers."

I love her little evolving, free-thinking mind.

you got to love a child's' mind good for her. and you

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I hate that comment. We DID NOT come from apes... we share a common ancestor. I hate that I have to explain that about fifty-billion times a day. It's ridiculous.

I understand that. But we didn't evolve FROM apes. We share a common ancestor.

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I would tell her we all come from a more primitive ancestor. But some of us are a little more primitive than others.

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Tell the truth and let your friend squirm.

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As a professional who is meant to steer a student in the right direction, you should tell her how you feel about it, but also let her know that other viewpoints are out there, and it would be best for her to do some research, and come to the conclusion herself. That's a good point to do, because it lets the student know your PoV on it, but doesn't make it as an absolute. It saves you from getting in trouble with her parents if they're Religious, but lets her know that there may be an alternative answer to what Religion has to offer.

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Tell them to watch "inherit the wind" with Spencer Tracy

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"Of course we didn't come from apes - we had a common ancestor! That's how evolution works!"

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There are four extant genara of great apes, one of which is represented by a sole species, Homo Sapiens.

Since people are apes, it is safe to say that people came from apes.

d_day Level 7 Dec 10, 2017
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A passing reference to Tile IX might cool that teacher's jets! Does no good to engage those closed minds.

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First, you need to have better friends...

Ask your "friend" one question - if we are all made in God's image, why do we all look different?

Finally, your charge is to your students, not your "friend." Make sure you verse them well in the ideas of natural selection and our "family tree." Teach them the scientific method of critical thinking and you will have done your job as a teacher, regardless of the age of your students.

This from a former college instructor.

Thank you. I think in a more diverse community your idea would work. I don't like to trample on someones beliefs unless they challenge me directly. I will let the student know that scientific evidence supports evolution and creation is about beliefs without evidence if she asks me

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Not sure if I ‘got that,’ but I’ve worked in schools, too… Often students bring that up simply as a source of controversy. If it’s genuine, asked in context with an assignment, and if I had the opportunity, I’d respond with something like, ‘we share a common ancestor.’ They won’t likely remember that, or understand it, but ‘you’ve answered honestly.’ Or, assure them that will be covered as they move up…

...now if you’ve described a religious teacher wanting to chastise a student’s honest curiosity.. Well, you now know who/ what you’re dealing with ~

Varn Level 8 Dec 10, 2017

My response to said teacher..."There goes that darn Title IX ruling again". Yes, I can be very passive-aggressive.

thank you, it was the latter

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I heard someone say something similar, with equal disgust, as she said " I most certainly am not related to any of those ugly apes !"

The way she said it, left me no doubt in my mind who the ugly one really was !

"TAKE YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME, YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!" 😉

Now, on ancient aliens, they say that those of us with PH- NEG blood are evolved from aliens. 🙂

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I would complain to the school board about the friend (if indeed she is the teacher). She ought not to be teaching if she's teaching religious fairy tales.

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Who is the teacher here?

neither, she is a librarian and I'm a bus driver

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It's quite simple - just provide the facts. We and apes came from a common ancestor.

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Another proxy fight with the young student in the middle - just tell them they learn all about that in college.

mzee Level 7 Dec 10, 2017
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You didn't mention the age range of the student. Most have internet access, give them a link and let them decide for themselves.

Like this one...

Betty Level 8 Dec 10, 2017

the link didn't work but thank you

@openmind

Sorry about the link. You can search youtube for similar links in your area, they can be very informative.

@openmind

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