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One of my co-workers (she's Catholic) commented during lunch that those that do not have faith have no morals and lead hedonistic lifestyles. I said that one does not have to have faith to have morals. What are some things I can say (if I want to) the next time she brings this up and still be civil?

katlight02 4 May 11
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Does she know that you do not believe in a god? Was this directed at you or is she just talking to have something to say. You might ask her if she thinks you are evil. That should make her think. Also you might say that her bible tells her that she should not judge.

I don't know if she does know. She probably does now, lol.

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Humans by nature like to transcend boundaries. By limiting the definition of morality in a religious context I think that you create an innate curiosity about violating those limits, or the things beyond them . So to me, prescribed "morality" leads to a rebellion against and exploration of things outside of, the "morality" rule set. In short, enforcing "morality" probably entices those subjected to that enforcement to explore immorality out of a natural desire to push past limits.

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I think morals are more a part of a culture than a specific religion.

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Being civil is difficult sometimes. I point out that despite not being a believer, I have no trouble with being a good person. Also, the type of comment she made says pretty much flat out that the only thing holding her back from looting/murdering/raping/etc. is her belief that some supernatural power will punish her. Though, pointing that out might not be considered civil.

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Next time you go to lunch..... prepare 2 "lunch bags." Write your name on one side.... then faith on one and morals on the other. Eat the stuff in the faith bag, the crumple it up and thow it away. Then show her that you still:have your "morals."

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BTW, what is wrong with hedonism?

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I wouldn't waste time talking to her pass hello / good bye.

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The mother pf a thief...com/ of a girl with three kids fathered by three men...will also tell you that if you don't believe you have no morals.
These people see the lent on a person 's eye but never the garbage on their own face.

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Faith is a crutch used by weak minds so they know what to be angry about. Religion has nothing to do with morals or we would see fewer religious nuts committing crimes justified in their minds.

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Catholic priests and altar boys.

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This is what I would try to offer your friend. [The atheists In my circle of friends are among the most principled, ethical, loving, fair and moral friends I know. And if I didn't know which ones are atheists I would not be able to identify them by their values, compared to the values of my Christian friends. I also have some casual friends who are Christian but who "secretly" believe I would make a wonderful Christian because of my values.]

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