Do you really want to be called ignorant? Lol. As for myself, I do not like to be treated like crap. I've gotten TONS of scammers but they are all very easy to spot and the first clue is they seem to be really nice and very flattering. Ding, ding ?(dang, couldn't find a red flag)

I met my guy online. He had the problem of being "too nice or a really good friend" to actually date. He had tons of female friends that dated the jerks and came to him to bitch about them. And they didn't like the fact he wasn't tall. Worked out well for me! We are both fun size and I loved that he wasn't a jackass. We are out there.. you just have to look for the right ones!

Go to places where you can meet better type of women.

2 of my best friends fall into this category. Awesome, wonderful ladies who continually avoid nice guys and go for those who treat them like crap, even to the point of physical abuse.

Well I hate to be treated like crap. I am attracted to nice guys, but they seem to be few and in between. Everyone does something stupid when they are young. You have paid for that, and that should be the end of it. No one is perfect. I know what you mean about scammers I found alot of them on several dating sites. I don't understand why they would want to waste their time and others. So if you would like to talk write me.

Are there nice guys? You know, the kind who introduce us to their family and friends, make dates and keep them, attend openings when we're in the play or art show, attend functions where we're getting an award, don't disparage our jobs, clothes, education, children or pets? All this without whining, complaining or comparing us to other women? Please, send one my way - I may not be wealthy or attractive, but I cook a mean feast.

Silence is Golden by The Tremeloes. Mid 60's song that deals with a similar observation. I think it has been a thing for a long time.

Women seem to be keeping VERY quiet about this post.

And I agree, the extrovertish "players" get 95% of the traction with the ladies. Love 'em, scam 'em & leave 'em. On to the next! The quiet, honest, thoughtful ones aren't nearly as exciting. They often get blamed for the damage and distrust caused by the others.

Two thoughts. 1) Women who fall for this shit aren't as far on their maturity journey as a woman that you'd actually want to date. 2) Dating sites aren't great places to meet women. Look for them in your actual life. In classes you take at the community college. In places where you're doing volunteer work. In events at that Meetup.com group you belong to. In fact, I'd go so far as to say stop looking for women. Let a good woman just happen. You'll meet someone worth knowing that way.

I guess I never paid attention much to what the next person is doing, or what the next man has. I work with what I got and it seems to work in my favor. Sure people have preferences on what they require when dating but it doesn’t ring true for every woman to want the “asshole” “bad boy”.

Women can’t help it. They are naturally attracted to the “alpha” male character. He’s usually an asshole, but he makes them feel safe.

Don't let yourself turn into elliot roger, okay?

Sometimes men like to tell themselves that their competition are asshats... :/

I see this in my college classes. It's a small school and we tend to know who the guys are that are asshats. Alot of the girls flock to them and I wonder what eventually happens. Maybe those kind of girls are asshats, too!!??

Did you get incarcerated because you were a nice guy?

Yeah they do, or appear to, for the most part. Hopefully the ladies will join in with this and shed some light on it. Although they be in denial that this actually happens lol I bet I get some shit for this

Women are generally attracted to self-confidence. A lot of assholes appear self-confident, and they attract women that way. A lot of nice guys don't appear self-confident. My advice is to do something that attracts attention. Stand out from the crowd. Be bold. Be loud.

That has been my experience too, though never been incarcerated. Women seem to like assholes !