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If you don't believe in god, you DO have morals, it's all that you have. If you BELIEVE in god, you don't need morals.
~ David Feldman

Benthoven 8 May 31
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My lack of belief in God has nothing to do with morals good or bad, it has to do with God not existing good or bad. For better or worse I would always choose reality.

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I've always said that religion appropriates morality from society and claims to be its inventor and protector. Religion is good at cultural appropriation. It has to be; it is incapable of inventing or innovating anything of actual value.

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