There’s so many people out there who actually deserve their driver’s license and many don’t drive, due to medical disorders. This had me thinking cause it just reminded me how unfair and cruel life really can be. While there’s druggies and irresponsible people everyday behind the wheel of a car, killing innocent people or families, some great people not able to drive for stupid reasons that would have made responsible choices when driving. What’s your thoughts on this!
For anyone who has killed someone because of any reason (texting, talking, drunk, high, putting on makeup, reading a magazine, not paying attention), they are guilty of murder. I can see circumstances dictating the punishment -- but those folks got behind the wheel and killed someone. It may not have been their intent, but they did it anyway.
Manslaughter I think you would find it classed as. Negligent, but no intent to kill. Here in the UK it's been made a specific offence of "causing death by dangerous driving"
@mercurymerlin Manslaughter in many of these cases is a 'slap on the wrist'. Our punishment does not fit the crime.
@mercurymerlin yes, there is intent to kill. Its a choice. Its depraved indifference... Murder.
All I can say is that as I understand it the law does draw a distinction between intent to kill a specific person, and intent to act recklessly in a way that is likely to endanger life.
I'm sorry if that doesn't suit you, and in saying that I make no comment about severity of sentencing; a different matter for another time.
But I believe to be an accurate description.
@mercurymerlin I agree with you that this is the ways it works. I just don't like it. Someone getting off while under the influence driving a heavy machine and killing someone.
Someone I know - an ex-colleague, rather than a friend - was driving his car one day when he received a text. He began writing a reply... and the following day, woke up in hospital. He went to prison for three years; sadly, the 18-year-old woman in the passenger seat was not so fortunate.
I'm a cyclist, as are many of my friends; many of us have lost friends and we've all heard too many stories of people being killed by drivers who use their phones when they should be concentrating.
I think a fitting punishment would be an immediate lifetime ban from driving.
I hate them and enjoy BLASTING them with a horn honk as I pass.
@iamjc You're right, of course. Both ears are jammed full of their BUDS. How stupid do you have to be to try moving around in a world where YOUR senses are dimmed by phone, text, music, etc?
In the UK they can get £120 fine and 6 penalty points (12 points is a 1-year ban). I think that's reasonable, but the problem is the police do not have the resources or the will to enforce the law. I see people offending every day when I'm out on my bike and if their window is open I will remind them that they are breaking the law. It's still not socially unacceptable enough, like drink-driving used to be many years ago.
I would remove their licence for life, along with anyone else who does something that could only be decribed as gross or deliberate negligence. The roads are dangerous enough without linatics who think they can or should be able to do as they want.
And some of them will still drive even after being banned. When they’re caught, I would suggest a stiff jail sentence, an excruciating fine, vehicle confiscation (all, not just the one they were driving), and community service, working for those whose lives have been changed for the worse by the actions of bad drivers.
They should all be on the same road together - in thick fog.
Yes! I agree!
Let them die without killing others... sad for the families.
As a truck driver, I see this daily. It is all over and happens way more often than you think. There is no reason to ever text and drive!!! I live in AZ an I can corroborate iamjc's comment about Scottsdale. But, it is way worse in many places, sadly. I wish I didn't witness as much stupidity as I do daily. Or I could tag their car with a "I AM A DUMB ASS DRIVER" sticker..
For now think there should be strict enforcement of laws that create a safer driving experience. In the near future i believe technologies like autonomous ground and air vehicles will render all of these issues moot.
Some people will always have a more highly refined sense of responsibility for their actions. Some people will make a split decision that haunts them forever. Personally I'll always take as much care as possible to, 'do no harm'. But saying that; once those automated cars come in mine will be set to choose to preserve my life in an accident, (if discussed settings come in).
Honestly, I care about results, not possibilities. Im sure this will get me bitched by someone, but...
I don't care what anyone does, until it harms someone else. Once it does, the should face the consequences of those results, but until something goes wrong, its not really my concern.
Something to bear in mind - human drivers are likely to disappear in the next couple of decades, as we switch over to autonomous vehicles driven by (very much safer) AI with 360° vision, optical, radar and lidar, and networked learning of any possible incident or injury.
Our roads are about to become much more safe; and the number of cars less perhaps; we'll see, it might be that we respond by packing more capacity on. Or it might be very different indeed to anything we presently imagine.
In the UK it's been explicitly illegal to use a mobile while driving, for a few years now. £30 fine (mighr be more now, not sure) and points on your license.
I do occasionally use hands-free (Bluetooth through the car audio system) to accept calls while driving. Even that I don't /like/ doing, it is distracting and the other person can't see that you sometimes can't respond for a moment or two.
On the other hand, that is legal here, and there have been a couple of times when I was possibly getting a call that really did need answering if at all possible. So very useful then.
We'll have self-driving cars within a generation so it will be irrelevant soon but yes, they are irresponsible people.