"It doesn't work that way." Knowing right from wrong is the basis of morality, delusions of forgiveness, is not reasonable morality. Logic tells me why something is wrong, I think some people don't have the brains to figure out right from wrong and need religion.

Religeon is a fake concept man made morals are inate

100% true, no-one needs any kind of religion to be a moral person. Human morality and ethics arose as our earliest ancestor discovered, just like other animals already knew, that survival depended upon co-operation, caring and nurturing each other as well as protecting the members, young or old, of the clan/tribe.
Religions have merely hijacked that concept/idea and twisted it around to suit their agenda/s.

I figured that I had to work harder at trying to be morally upstanding because I always had doubts about religion, so I felt like I always had two strikes against me.

Go back and read past posts on this topic.

It seems to me that inherent in the nature of man there is an innate sense of morality that has a direct basis in the laws of cause and effect. As John Start Mill more or less stated, a man is free to swing his fist but that freedom ends where another man's nose begins....

It seems to me that inherent in the nature of man there is an innate sense of morality that has a direct basis in the laws of cause and effect. As John Start Mill more or less stated, a man is free to swing his fist but that freedom ends where another man's nose begins....

Some protestant churches believing in God,teach that as long as you accept Jesus,and God as your savior,you are therefore good and moral,regardless of how much you sin. I believe that there are atheists who though don't believe in God, still hold it important for people to behave civilly and kindly towards each other. They likely have any amount of reasons why morals are important.Could be out of sensibly realizing that kind and considerate treatment of people towards each other makes for more harmony among groups, makes is safer for everyone.including themselves, as opposed to disregarding others,and just acting selfishly without regards to anyone else. Some Christians faiths don't even value practicing moral behavior towards each other,but out of their belief in Jesus,they instead believe that as long as they believe in Jesus,they are moral and good,not much in the way of being moral towards others is required of some Christian faiths. So yes atheists can have morals,even more so than religions that are based on belief in God.

I think Matt Dillahunty says it best, correct me if I’m not conveying his point accurately. There are no moral absolutes but we as a society determine objective moral truths based on fairness and wellbeing for society using rational discussion and critical thinking. Ergo, atheists can be moral. Furthermore most Christians edit/ignore their moral doctrine in accordance with what they themselves determine to be moral or immoral ie: stoning to death a cheater, or stoning to death a woman whom refuses to mary a man that rapes her.

that's a stupid question