If a picture is worth a thousand words, they must be simple fricken words. It's really not much to go on. Actually, a comment on a picture is more revealing to me than the picture itself.

One of my favorite responses to someone who wants the world to be as they think it should be is, "There is no one size fits all to humanity". By all means strive to make this world a better place for EVERYONE but being the individuals that we are, it is something that everyone has to learn to live with.

The attractiveness of said models is merely a method of attracting a fool to be separated from their money

Word. You are spot-on.

there was a jewish woman who had been in a concentration camp during the last war, she survived and on her 100th birthday she was leading the conga with the biggest smile on her face and she was beautiful as a person - I find that what we think of as 'beauty' often changes when something like this comes your way.

I value people from the neck up (their mind) and teach the same.

I call it "I am not dead neither blind just yet" ?

I feel much the same way. And I think that age and maturity are the forces that work against the objectification glamour. The inexperienced and insincere are easily taken by the shallow lure of youthful images. That youth will age and what becomes is less and less of its appearance and needs to rely more and more on its inner substance to be meaningfull. So too the eye of a wise beholder learns early to look inside for value and not to be fold by cosmetics. One of my teachers in statistics once told me that "looking at statistics is like looking at someone in a bathing suit. What you see may be interesting but what you don't see is crucial." While a woman I worked with and had a total crush on once told me that " men age against time while women age against gravity." One of my early mentors told me, in his crude sort of way, that the older chicks " don't yell, they don't swell, they don't tell, and they're greatfull as hell." So my own social diet is focused on more meaningfull connections with people of substance rather than cosmetic appeal. But to be honest I still enjoy an occasional look at the menu.

We are ALL genetically programmed to look at, and appreciate, what we are genetically programmed to appreciate.

I think we need to move to total nudity, no restrictions. Titties on big display. Pubic hair everywhere. Then we will be able to stop caring about it.

Covering it all and letting the religious demand ignorance and denial helps no one.

I don't really have a frame of reference for some of it. No-one's going to objectify something that looks like me. They never have. Then again, even if I were being objectified, I probably wouldn't recognise it.

I have been known to stare at ladies I find attractive, but I never have the courage to say anything, and I pretty much forget about them the moment they're out of sight.

They say... Prostitution is the Oldest Profession. Still Front and Center in Our Lives.

I hate seeing people in ads, period. I want to see what;s being ofered and details of cost and use, anything else is fluff. so, as you can imagine I hate ads and avoid like the plague

That would be wonderful, if that could happen. But, sex sells and gives people false expectations, that they seem to want. A lot of things/factors/mindsets would have to change in order for that to happen and I honestly don't know where you would begin...

A great idea but we are just animals and that sexual desire drives us for the most part. I mean I want to take part in meaningful intellectual conversations/discussions but if I have my choice...I would rather be having sex.
So while we can be PC and say the objectification of human anatomy is wrong and we shouldn't fall for it somewhere you are lying to yourself a little if you think we all don't do it to some extent.
"You and me baby aren't nothing but mammals lets do it like they do on the Discovery channel" *Bloodhound Gang - The Bad Touch**
Watch the video and listen to the lyrics...it is just funny...or offensive...maybe both depending on your bias.

objectification is how we dehumanize people to the extent that we go beyond simple ogling into such things as slavery it isn't just an attitude about what is or isn't beauty. it isn't even a matter of appreciating someone's physicality, which can be okay or can be objectifying -- we do tend to allow objectification to creep in. our focus on the prurient is both a symptom AND part of the underlying cause, but it is neither all by itself, and it is neither all of the time.

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My 2 cents: objectification has been around for a long, long time. Many renaissance painters painted heavy set women as they were all the rage -- whereas skinny women had to improvise -- bussel (sp). Bathing in milk to lighten the skin, wearing white makeup, tanning to change the skin color. It isn't that humans find sex desirable, it is that we don't teach our children the pros and cons of sex or objectification. Most cultures don't really teach children about sex other than disease and pregnancy. Hence objectification will be with us. Note: it is beginning to swing back from the starving waifes to a more full-figured woman.

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I think I've talked about this on other posts so I may be repeating myself... There is something to physical attraction but to me physical appearance and emotional health go together. I am physically attracted to women who seriously work out, especially if they have visible muscle. I am emotionally attracted to women who are intelligent and are emotionally insightful. However I am more likely to want to be with the latter as being with an emotionally healthy woman is easier than an unhealthy one. Doesn't matter how physically attractive a woman is, if she opens her mouth and says something truly offensive you can't get any uglier than that. I also must say physical ill health is quite commonly connected to emotional ill health too... Also my definition of physically attractive has become immensely more inclusive as I've gotten older.

I believe all this can continue if it's done in a respectful manner.
For instance - if anyone wants to pose for a calender, and maybe be a bit (or a lot) provocative, to raise money for some cause - I will happily appreciate their efforts.

There will always be all types of perceived beauty, and all types of people to appreciate certain aspects of it.

There will also always be those that may choose to be be offended by, or judgemental of, some aspects as well . There's no pleasing everyone.

I'm not sure I understand the question. Are you saying would should look at something ugly and pretend it's pretty as to not hurt anyone's feelings? No one looks at a pile of shit and sees it's "inner beauty". Whatever ur looking at is either appealing to the eyes or its not. So if ya ask me, I who clearly haven't graced the covers of GQ Magazine, people should just accept their lot in life. If you're ugly, try and make up for it with personality sure...but don't throw a fit when Playboy turns ya down. If little Timmy fails a test miserably, don't give him a tin star for spelling his name right. When that same moron applies for a job at NASA, hand him a broom...cause that's the way it is. Stop telling people they're better then what they are, it just leads to a lifetime of disappointment. If they truly want to better themselves (looks too) there's steps they can take to do so. If they're not motivated enough to make the effort, then I could care less how they feel about it when my eyes or ears pass judgement. If anything, people like (you) should feel bad for filling their head full of the bullshit that has em so deluded.