Eh I don't oppose a group for gun enthusiast...Im a gun owner myself Burn in also a proponent of gun control...If anything it might be a good way to open up a dialogue with pro-gun folks.

Not to mention while you have people that lean way to far into their mind-set with guns you still have plenty of people willing to come to the table on the issue.

Before passing judgement..Maybe talk to em.

I'm fine with anyone holding any particular view being here. What would be the point of this place if we turned it into the same kind of echo-chamber the faithful seem to prefer? As long as any views are expressed honestly, with the purpose of greater understanding, and in a nonconfrontational manner, I say, let us hear it.

I'm fine with the second amendment. Though I don't see anywhere in its language any form of protection of our "right" to own and operate military grade assault weaponry. A reasonable amount of limitation is absolutely warranted when discussing objects capable of ending multiple human lives in seconds.

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Guns for all: Gays, Lesbians, Liberals etc

Stupid isn't biast it's all inclusive !!!;

I am so happy about the response here ... now I am convinced that we all need guns, tanks, nuclear weapons and a few gummibears ...
I decided to launch the movement "GUNS for all: Gays, Lesbians, Liberals ... the lot ...

What amuses me is the way gun nuts treat The Constitution like religious nuts treat The Bible - as inerrant, unchangeable law.
The right to bear arms is itself an amendment. The Constitution is constantly changing - what was put in can be taken out again and that would still be perfectly constitutional. Rights can change too - the right to hold slaves for example. People should recognise that The Constitution is a man-made, fallible instrument and stop being in thrall to it.

They just like to pick and choose which amendments they like. They're fine with restrictions on the First Amendment, like you can't yell fire in a crowded theater. But they won't have any restrictions on the Second Amendment, like you can't have any "arm" you want, like you can't have a bazooka or an AK-47 or anything that shoots as many bullets as possible. They don't care that the US Supreme Court has spoken on that issue and says there can be restrictions. So they want their freedom to be anti-religion but are intransigent when it comes to their guns.

Not living in the U.S. i couldn't possibly have a view on this because the U.S. never interferes in any other countries politics (cough) ?

Not a problem. I fully support the right to bear arms because home invasions DO happen. The world is a sick and scary place. It's better to be prepared.

Why would it be "worrying"?
The USA is a free country should NOT bow to extremists who demand that other's Constitutional Rights are withdrawn.

Actually, the right to defend ourselves is a human right and supersedes even the Constitution.
It is an inalienable right -- it is a right that cannot be taken away or transferred.
Just because other countries have limited the freedom and rights of their citizens does not mean that the USA should follow them down that slippery slope.

I don't see a problem, it is a valid subject of discussion especially within the US. If you don't like it, scroll past, if you want to join the discussion no matter what side of the fence you sit, go for it!

How do you know they are not simply expressing a preference for the AK-47 over the M-16?

It's not my thing so I don't join. For all I know, I belong to at least one group that a site member doesn't approve of. Wouldn't want any of my groups to suddenly be determined offensive and deleted because that was the case.

My experience has been that there are as many gun owners that are democrat as there are republicans. There are many of these people who never go to church, but if they were in a bad situation, or were looking at natures beauty they might invoke the name of god. I would hardly call that a fanatic. If I were to pick a line of division in this culture, it would be between those who went college, and those who did not. Thanks for reading

depends i hate guns but thats me trying to stop something is a good way too shut down any conversation and lead to demarcation lines none can cross

It's not the "pro-gun rights" per se that worry me... it's that they're the same pro-gun ideologies we see on the Evangelical side. Their ideologies are hyper-critical of reason and logic, they're focused on the constant fear brought about by conspiracy theory--which they embrace without question, and they cannot have a logical or reasoned debate.

Ammosexuals in general are a difficult batch to understand, but to see them on a a site that's dedicated to logic and reason, I have to wonder... why are they here at all?

I am an atheist, own guns, and don't think more gun control is necessary or effective.

Don't liek it (pro-gun rights groups), but I believe in freedom of speech and freedom of association, so I dont' believe in banning them.

Was upset when people formed a Nazi group-studying Hitler. Different strokes for different folks.