I respect the feelings of all people .... i just want know what is in your mind
If we talk about human, we don't mean man alone,or woman alone, but we mean man and woman (male and female), If we talk about any true human integration, then he should follow his way through his other race.
What do you think about homosexuality?, Do you see it as instinctive or psychological?,Or As a result of sexual assault occurred before adolescence age?
I think what two consenting adults do in the bedroom is nobody else's business. I would hope someone would look at my business in the same light.
for example, if I discover that my son and his brother, are doing this, will I deal with it, i will be like blind?
@belfodil My impression is that it is a quite common form of experimentation among male siblings. The usually grow out of it, but if they don't, does it matter? They are not hurting anyone else if it is consensual.
@belfodil if siblings are having incestuous encounters, you've got bigger fish to fry than questioning if homosexualuty is a choice or hardwired.
@belfodil straight people can be incestuous too. what's incest got to do with homosexuality? why are you equating the two?
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i agree, and only most gently wish to point out that homosexuality is not just about sex. it's about to whom one is attracted, not just sexually but romantically. it's about with whom one falls in love. sometimes people ask how a small child can know s/he is gay when, after all, s/he isn't even remotely sexually mature. well, when i was about three, i knew i was in love with gene autry. if i'd been gay i might have been in love with, say, annette funicello instead. (oh, probably not, but that's all i can think of, since i was watching the mickey mouse club at that age.) it's that simple. so it's not just about what people do in the bedroom. people in love do other stuff besides have sex.
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@belfodil Is your son 21 and living under your roof? Your house, your rules.
If you are Breathing, you are Human! Not my call how to Categorize people, nor yours either!
What the Hell difference does it make who your body longs to hold?
And if you are religious, your "perfect" Gawd created gay people...or did he/she/ it make a mistake? Because either everyone was created by gawds will, or he/she/it is Not omnipotent!
And, didn't I read something about however you treat Anyone, you are treating your Gawd? In several contexts?
what you mean by Gawd?
@belfodil Zeus, Zoroaster,, Allah, Baal, Yahweh, Astarte, Isi s, Ra, whomever
I am not learned on human physiology, but in my opinion, nature has no definition for natural and in nature, things just happen. Even if it is a choice, which I do NOT believe it is, a person has every right to make that choice as long as there is no harm done by their actions.
Do you think that a sane person, chooses to do that, with his brother, father, sister or mother?
@belfodil I would not, nor could not, make that decision and you probably feel the same, however, it doesn't matter what I, or YOU, think. It is totally the individual's responsibility and right to make decisions for their own lives. I stress my caveat, do or cause no harm.
@belfodil I would allow you to do so. It is your right alone to make that decision for yourself.
@belfodil again, why are you equating homosexuality with incest?
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There is no such thing as normal or what you are supposed to be.
Just do the best you that you can.
Just try to be balanced
Instinct and psychology are not exclusive. Fear, for example, is generally instinctive. As for homosexuality being the result of sexual assault - WHAT? That sounds like the theory of a mad person, but if you know of any evidence then be sure to present it. Otherwise it's as credible as the idea that having a cat in the house makes people schizophrenic.
I can't believe people are still confused by this. What is the norm? Men and women are attracted to each other. Men and women get together and procreate and the species continues.
But some men are attracted to men and some women are attracted to women. It's not a choice, some people are born that way. People don't choose to have Downs Syndrome but some are born that way. I'm not saying homosexuality is a defect (although you could make that argument) but it is a genetic state that you are born with and have no control over. So you have to accept it. You don't have to like it but its part of life.
I like Wendys, although I might CHOOSE to eat at McDonalds or Burger King. Maybe I'm in a hurry and one of the other ones is closer, maybe I don't have enough money and they're cheaper. That's a choice. Ask yourself this question. "Why would I choose to have sex with a person the same sex as me?" That's right, you wouldnt!! Because it's not a choice! You are straight or gay. You don't have to like it but there is nothing you can do about it so you might as well accept it.
Some people are only attracted to same sex partners. It will always be that way it will never go away so stop worrying about it.
I do not think about it at all. I oftentimes see couples who are into each other in a loving relationship or a single person going on with their life. Looks all normal to me.
NO.
Homosexuality is JUST AS NATURAL as heterosexuality.
Homosexuality is naturally occurring in well over 1,500 species,
besides humans.
There is nothing that points to heterosexuality as being caused by any outside influence.
The same is true for homosexuality.
Period.
Take some time and Google current research on the subject.
Your post comes off as lazy and uninformed.
If you truly want answers, do the work yourself.
Thank you for your advice ... I just wanted to share the views of these respectable faces
@belfodil Published research articles by scientists and psychologists involved in researching and studying LGBT issues are what you should be reviewing. Asking the opinion of the general public is NOT the place to start.
@SkotlandSkye It is general public that live these experiences, and it experiences themselves, Is an important part of these questions
@belfodil No, it's not. Not when you can't even frame the question correctly, not when you use antiquated terms/ideas, and not when what you are asking is best answered through legitimate research. If you want REAL answers backed by science, then you need to look at real science and not opinions. If you are just looking for people who might think/believe what you do about the subject, then opinions will do. But, opinions ARE NOT facts and just because someone may agree with you about something does not make it correct.
@SkotlandSkye the important that only can understand what I mean, if i can't even frame the question correctly, , you can help me to do that.
@belfodil Sure, my consulting fees start at $150 an hour. If you are serious, message me and I'll give you my PayPal email. Once I receive payment, I will be happy to instruct you concerning this topic.
The last possibility is frankly insulting and the stuff of myth. The idea that someone can be "turned" gay is legend. You might as well theorize that a heterosexual assault can turn someone who otherwise would have been homosexual.
Rape does not change sexual preference, rape is just rape.
I'm not homosexual. I believe that if homosexuality isn't a natural phenomenon, I would never be able to know for certain myself. This is why I think it's best to just let people live how they believe is best as long as they aren't hurting other people. If homosexuality isn't natural and can be changed, the homosexuals are the ones who can figure it out, not those who aren't homosexual.
I have never had the slightest homosexual orientation. I do not understand it, but I do not condemn it. Given the difficulties which social attitudes toward homosexuality often create, I find it difficult to believe that people would voluntarily choose to face such negativity. I am inclined to believe that homosexuality may have some genetic components.
Unpopular opinion: We know that homosexuality is not chosen, but I do think that it's a disconnect somewhere inside the person or animal. I believe that the only purpose for sex as far as nature is concerned is for procreation. I think that sexual desire is a facet of natural evolution to continue the expansion of the species even when child bearing is a quantifiable future hardship. Translation, if sex didn't feel good we'd have a fuckton less people on the planet.
With that said, I don't give a shit who anyone has sex with or loves. I think as long as it's consensual and makes you happy, do what you'd like.
If the only purpose for sex as far as nature is concerned is for procreation, then why do men have a G-spot hidden up their butts?
The original purpose of sex was reproduction, but evolution and nature does not care for original purpose, it reuses and reinvent structures to give new functions.
In most of mammals sex is a social factor also, in primates it becomes more clear.
Bonobos use sex for everything, from greeting to conflict resolution, and reproduction becomes a side effect.
And by the way there are some studies that claims that population of homosexuals or at least people with some homo relationships, tends to be stable at 10-15% on all societies and times, what change is the "out of the closet" proportion according how much it is accepted by society.
In some species (penguins for example) homosexual couples assume the role of foster parents, in other species they can be "soldiers" that won't compete with the alphas etc.
Anyway we are far more complex than simple primitive "natural" roles.
We have even a king of heterosexual that can only create bounds of friendship and love with others from the same sex, and "use" the opposite sex only for..... sex.
Using the natural argument is being oversimplistic, basically if we can do something (without injury for example) it is natural (and this not means good, just natural). So if a man can show love or pleasure with his but, it is natural.
I am not hetero because it is the right thing, I am hetero because I have never found a man that makes me want to have some sexual/love relationship, and at the same time I found that women gives me those intentions. I think homosexuality is simply the inverse.
Being good or not for evolution, we already passed this level as a species, we are not in risk to be destroyed by lack of reproduction or by a species beating us. We are not at a permanent war and need the next generation to be as numerous as possible to crush the enemy, so let people be happy as long as they don't cause harm to others.
@misternatureboy I have no discernable or useful answer for that.
@Pedrohbds This is why I don't typically post my opinion on this. My very last line was "With that said, I don't give a shit who anyone has sex with or loves. I think as long as it's consensual and makes you happy, do what you'd like." But you felt it necessary in your last line to tell me "so let people be happy as long as they don't cause harm to others."
People tend to get defensive and argumentative at my concept which is of course only theoretical but people still feel the need to tell me all about the entire animal kingdom. I understand that my concept that there is something "off" inside your brain is not an easy criticism to accept, but your acceptance or denial of a concept has nothing to do with the validity of it. I apologize for offending you as that is not my actual intention, but a common outcome when I explain my theory. Again, I don't really care even if my theory was proven, who anyone has sex with. Many people have actual physical disabilities and their lives and happiness is no less important than my own, however I understand that homosexual people really don't like their homosexuality being identified as anything other than normal and natural.
I think that people are different and if you try to "rate" them against each other some will come out higher than others in any measurable category. That however doesn't mean that it's a problem in society or that people should be treated differently. It means that if you want to get a message across town quickly on foot, pick Usain Bolt and not me. Different and even "disabled" or not in line with the process of procreation, does not mean less than. I'm just not sure how I can get those 2 concepts across to people on such a hot button issue.
@OwlInASack I hope I'm not too late with this advice: Get consent first!
@misternatureboy yeah I may have posted at the end of my first reply "as long as it's consensual"
Like pretty much all aspects of a person, it's a mixture of nature and nurture that varies from individual to individual. For some, it's in their nature.. for others it's in their nurture, their life experiences.
Uhm, siblings having sex with each other, which is what it looks like you're talking about in your replies, is incest, not homosexuality.
Like all other aspects of a person, ultimately it’s caused by sexual assault. Most are consensual though.
I think of it as a choice based on feelings, emotions, environment, heredity, and circumstance. Maybe even more factors like chance, but one could argue the priors make the latter plausible.
all correct except for choice. it's not choice. that's the one thing it is not. one may choose not to act upon one's nature, and hide who one is, and that is inevitably a choice that will take an emotional toll, but one cannot choose to be straight or gay (or whatever). one can argue for choice but the argument would have no basis whatsoever.
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I was homosexual from birth.. after my first sexual encounter with a man I became GAY.
Homosexuality in humans is estimated around 10% of the population which falls in line with observations among other species.while some of my friends are gay the majority of them are straight, I suppose because I am straight. Sexual orientation doesn’t have any bearing on friendship, the job you do, or how you engage society. I have learned a great deal from all of my friends and I hope they have learned from me. I consider each and every one of my friends a gem stone in my treasure chest.
Being homosexual is not new -- though it is being treated like it never existed until recent times. It has been around since before man became man. In all species there are same sex acts. It is not unique to humans. It makes no difference to me what sexual preference a person has -- it is only important when either I or the other makes an advance. I have always thought that the Shakespearean quote "Methinks thou doth protest too much" make a lot of sense.
I don't know. I had a classmate that would have very feminine posture, his amount of feminine hormones was high, if he's gay, that would explain his case. So, how far it's natural it's debatable.