I have been reflecting on my reaction to Stuart, the retired attorney for whom I cooking three meals/day. Critical and fussy, he nit-picked my cooking. This was rich, coming from a man who never learned to cook.
I found myself watching Stuart’s facial expressions, to see if he liked what he was tasting.
When I stood up to him, Stuart argued. He even criticized our short hike, something I would never do.
“I’ve been on more beautiful hikes,” Stuart sniffed, when I asked how he liked hiking around Icicle Gorge.
Stuart’s criticism triggered old not good enough feelings that I got from my alcoholic father. Nothing I did was ever good enough for him. Dad criticized me relentlessly.
I spent my childhood trying to please my dad: get straight A's (check), win first place in the Michigan State Solo and Ensemble Competition (check), be first flute from junior high through senior high (check), ad nauseam. In my 30s, I had years of therapy to heal.
This is why I felt emotionally exhausted and deeply relieved when Stuart left.
Stuart called me “wonderful, kind, gracious, intelligent, beautiful and funny.” He asked me to give him another chance. I refused.
I'm glad I paid attention to my feelings.
Your thoughts?
If it was a bad day for him, then maybe another chance. That's a big maybe. Otherwise, forget he exists and move on with your life.
@Bill65
"You had 2-1/2 days to make a good impression," I replied to Stuart when he asked for another chance. "You massively blew it."
"This was an experience I don't want to repeat. Please leave me alone."
After that, he blamed me, and lashed out at me. Another RED FLAG. Flush.
I've been running this in my head the past couple of weeks: "You had ONE JOB. ONE!" and you fucked it up. Are you trying to get me to FIRE you? Yes?
Everyone has a "job" in their various social relationships, no matter of degree.
Don't expect to hold a heavy anvil from a great height with nothing more than thin jute rope and not expect to have it fall on your head.
This immediately brought to mind the Road Runner cartoons. LOL. I hope I never grow up.
Beep! Beep! Zoom....
You did the right thing. If your being told your not good enough, then he is right, for him. You are a great person and anyone who says different is saying stay away.
Thank you.
The old adage about fool me once... applies here. It seems you attract all kinds of put downers. What's going on? I think we get used to a certain kind of behavior and gravitate toward this as it is in our comfort zone. Better the misery you know then something you don't ,which might be even worse - or better. You are better than that!
I'm going to block you if you don't stop blaming me for men's behavior. It takes time to get to know someone.
In my experience, most men can hold it together for about three weeks. Then the bad behavior comes out, the same bad behavior that killed their last relationship. Unlike women I know, men usually don't work on themselves or see a counselor. Then they wonder why they can't hang onto a relationship.
Stuart was fine the first time we met in Cle Elum. In Wenatchee, he stayed in an Air B&B.
My plan was to take him on a walk on the riverfront, and on a short hike around Icicle Gorge. Get to know each other. I was raised to be a gracious hostess.
After I got older and reflected on my past relationships, I realized that I did in fact have a type after all despite different genders and appearances, they were all addicts or recovering addicts with childhood abuse with the exception of my 2nd husband not having a substance abuse problem during the time I knew him.
They all needed ME to keep them on the straight and narrow or to take care of them in some way.
They all failed and I was put into the role of parent or caretaker which killed the romance and in turn introduced further problems.
I have been single for about 7 years and initially it was just a break until I could make better choices in a partner but an accident and family issues have kept me single for a bit longer. But I know my value now and will not settle ever again.
@LiterateHiker I didn't get the sense from this comment that he was blaming you but rather that we sometimes seek out the familiar without being aware of it.
I don't get on here as much as I used to and usually skim the topics so I may be missing a pattern in which case, ignore my above comment.
@LiterateHiker Kathleen, I am sorry you read my comment as you did. I guess I need to try and be clearer when commenting. I am not blaming you for someone else's behavior. I do not blame myself for my former partner's behavior but I simply tell myself to be more careful in the future.
For me, as much as I’d like to just get over my childhood, it also shaped me. I wouldn’t be who I am today without what I went through and dealt with. I think its the main reason I do a lot of the things and believe a lot of the things I do today. I had such a strange up bringing that I never want the same for my own life. But I still constantly live in fear that I will repeat my families mistakes or that I let it hold me back.
I've been told that it takes a thousand plus compliments to negate one discouraging comment.
Internet seems to reflect 5 to 1 ration but a physiologist we hired for on in-service on trauma informed schools noted an 8 to 1 ratio of good comments to equalize a single negative.
I guess it depends on the negative comment and who gives it.
You made the right decision.
Thank you.
If it is something that we are still thinking of into our adulthoods, then the obvious statement is no...we do not. This does not, however, give opportunity to excuse ourselves from learning from our pained past and doing better for the future, as you seem to be doing.
You did what you had to do and I cannot blame you. In my own situation it has been over a year now since I have seen my stepdad who is in a nursing home. He criticized me constantly as long as I knew him, and I even bought my place from him after mom died. He has dementia now and fixed it to where no one would ever have POA over him. Well, he was wrong. He will die there.
Ever heard the story of the bear that picked up a hot stove, and howled and screamed because he was so enraged he wouldn't put it down.....sometimes people are like that....being treated nicely or not, is a choice.....being with a negative person or not, is a choice.....being abused or not, .....yeah you got it.....sounds like your dad was a real peach of a guy....probably raised back in the day when a kind word was a sign of weakness, making it tough on someone made them strong.....old school that most often was bull shit. Child hood hurts are a part of life, just like adult hurts. What we do with them is a choice....continue to hold on to them, and hollar and scream, ....or learn lessons from them and make the choices to protect ourselves and be happy. Good luck.
The first step is being aware of the conditioning - because that's what it is. We are all conditioned to whatever crazy our family has. As we grow older, we have to become aware of that conditioning and, in being attentive, not allow that conditioning to control us.
Once I learned that I couldn't "save mom" from her own lack of curiosity and thinly veiled abusive behavior via some younger woman with the same dysfunction, then I became free to find something new. That's when the real journey began for me.
You called homeboy on his shit and rejected it. It was painful, but you overcame. You beat it. You are free.
If only you were poly and local... eyes flutter and sigh
Our experiences always impact us. The question is how, and for many people that is sadly in a profoundly negative way.
Stuart is an idiot who lacks empathy and EQ. What he does is what he is, and his behavior, if he modifies it at all, will revert to the the mean. Dump him.
I wrote to Stuart:
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them." This is true.
During your visit to Wenatchee, I saw the real you. You had 2-1/2 days to make a good impression. Instead, you massively blew it. By the time you left, I felt tremendous relief.
Your apologies, protests ("I didn't say that" ) and testimonials from other women mean nothing. Again, I saw the real you.
Kathleen
@LiterateHiker Word.
Good Riddance! It is very difficult to connect with peeps who push those "hurt" buttons. I don't think we ever get completely over the abuses of our childhood....or of life. We move on because we must, but there are times when bam i am right back into the hurt.
I had a dad who was smart, funny, occasionally affectionate, frequently angry, and could never be satisfied. I fear I have become him, and rail against it.
@MrBeelzeebubble
My father was extremely intelligent, hilarious and the life of the party. My parents never spanked or hit us.
"I don't want to hear another peep out of you kids," Dad warned, and left the room.
"Peep! Peep! Peep!" we called. We could hear Dad laughing on the other side of the door.
My ex wanted me to take her back, too . . . and enlisted the aid of my brother and his wife. Sounds like very similar circumstances. I'd also seen enough to know nothing had changed and the damage was irreparable. Pain shapes you and sometimes the best you can hope for is to not require the same shaping over and again.
These are the triggers/demons we all have. I'm not sure it will ever go away if you don't address them with a partner. Do you truly believe he wouldn't change that part of him to help you ?
Was just recently dumped for similar, imo. She didn't care enough to even discuss the triggered hurt even though most of what we shared was pretty damn good. Seems wasteful and stupid to me to ruin a good thing based on one issue. Guess it was bigger for her than me.
We will both be triggered again likely in the next relationship. Just hope it's with someone that can accept that my baggage is about me and not her, as hers is about her.
Love seems to mean accepting some of that. You wouldn't kick your child out for the same thing so if you'd do it another human it might not have been love. Seems to me anyway.
You're right: nobody is perfect, including me.
The only person I can change and control is myself.
I choose to surround myself with positive people.
@LiterateHiker
About all one can do.
There is a world of difference between being in a bad mood and making an offhand negative comment, and being a negative person who is incapable of being satisfied. Unfortunately, while that characteristic isn't about the other person, it's also not one that I'm willing to attach myself to.