I am an advocate for human rights. I think that both Misogynists and Misandrists have it wrong. To be equal, it must be true that neither gender rules.

If that means that I am in favor of mens rights, then yes, I am a mens rights activist. The same reasoning means that I also happen to be a womens rights activist.

Is that the modern version of the "He Man Woman Haters Club?"

Remember that from The Little Rascals?

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Men already have ALL the rights... They don't need activists at the point.

Don't we already have all the rights?

I think that the concept is unnecessary. Men dominate the world. The whole structure of society is based on the subjugation of women and the division of the underclass against itself. That being said, religion perpetuates the patriarchal and class structure of society.

As a geeky, nerdy, boring, sentimental, romantic male, the patriarchy has screwed me too. I mean I won't back down and I'm not submissive or even permissive and have no desire to wear form fitting clothing or skirts or makeup, but the gender stereotypes tend to impinge on my enjoyment of life to some degree. I therefor advocate for equality while avoiding the labels of feminist or "MRA." My favorite interjection whenever race or gender is brought up is to stand up, very stiffly, raise my right index finger to the air and to shout "OBJECTION! Relevance?"

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh... but men rights are human rights just like women rights are human rights.... can't we just, get along? xD

These guys?

Not me. Barf.

These guys are frightening. It all grew out of the Men's Movement started in the late 70's early 80's This was a response to femininism by men to find ways for men to work on themselves using the lessons and tools of feminism. I even helped start one of these groups in college. That group is still going strong and is staying true to it's roots however most others have been coopted by the 'reverse discrimination' morons you mentioned. It has gotten so bad that The Southern Poverty Law Center and Extremist Watch (2 excellent sources for information on white supremacists and the extreme right) have connected these men's rights groups with far right groups that should be called domestic terrorists. Of course that ain't gonna happen with the orange-hued shitstorm running our government. Excellent post.

Incels: Where in the world does anyone get the idea that they're owed sex?? I mean, how did that even start??

It's worrisome enough when a single person can't make can't make the distinction between individuals--even a series of individuals (e.g. this woman and that woman and that other woman refused to have sex with me)--and a whole class of individuals (e.g. women in general refuse to have sex with me)...it's downright terrifying to think there's a whole "movement" that encourages this kind of disordered thinking! Elliot Roger, anyone? Columbine?

Gives me the heebie jeebies.

Had to look that lot up. Thanks for nothing google.

No I'm none of the above, except that I am an equal rights activist, will fight for equality on all levels.

And for clarification equality does not mean treating everyone the same.

I just can’t wait until this whole shitfest settles down and people realize that men and women are not opposing forces, that everyone faces gender discrimination, it does not matter who has it worse, why make it a contest? I’m going to be a target now because I believe no one is spared from discrimination

I recently got into a youtube comment war with one of these MGTOW ignoramuses. He claims that women only get married in order to divorce rape men and that the entire Meetoo movement only exist to falsely accuse men and ruin their lives, as well as many other despicable things. This all started because it called a jeopardy contestant cancer because she defeated two guys and won several games.

Not at all, I succumb to the fact that I'm just a mere male.

After reading this post I had to look up incels, now I know what they are. I won't say thank you.

I would certainly hope not.

My wife actually has a contrarian position about a narrow aspect of this. She thinks men tend to get shafted in child custody and visitation rights. When she divorced her first husband he got 50/50 custody, not the typical "every other weekend". He has remained a very active and devoted father. She would, selfishly, have moved somewhere else but she stayed a few blocks away to facilitate her children having a father.

Her only regret is that her ex married an insecure, competitive bitch on wheels who instigated a lot of practical problems that produced heapin' helpins of unwanted drama that she would have been much more insulated from if she had conventional custody. But she still feels that the defaults of the current system promote and encourage "deadbeat" or uninvolved fathers. Men tend to react to being demonized by giving up and withdrawing. She feels they should be expected to step up to the plate.

I provisionally agree with her on this, I think it's a screwed up system. But it depends on the circumstances. When I took the kids and left my first wife, I actually obtained full physical custody and she had basically zero visitation rights, because she was seriously mentally ill and I did not want her to have unsupervised access to the children. And as it turned out, once the men in the white coats got hold of her and turned her into a Thorazine zombie, in the ensuing 20-plus years she never showed the slightest interest in either of the kids, and turned down involvement even when it was offered. So I'm a counterexample, albeit an edge case.

I am just a Romantic Fella. Label me whatever you feel like labeling me. It ain't going to be the last time and I am not stopping either.

This is a real thing? Why is it that every morning, i wake up and some dope has fone some new thing to make me feel even more guilty for the accident of my birth. Feel like i should just wear a big scarlet S on my chest... but then people would think i just thought i was SOOPER and yet another priveleged white guy. Maaaan SHOOT

Although yes I realize various groups of people are more commonly the object of discrimination in certain places. I still think that unless the group is fighting for the equality of all persons than at least subconsciously they are looking for the upper hand for their group (or themselves, using the group of persons as a cloak to hide their own intentions) not to be on equal ground with all other people immediately outside their group.

Incels? First I have heard of that also. Reading about incels it occurs to me that is a common mindset with some people regardless of the association with sex.

Sorry, late to the party. I'm an MRA. I don't think any MRA's actually commented here. Well the Men's Rights Movement started sort of in response to Women's Liberation. We feel that movement GREATLY misunderstood the historic relationship between men and women and as such overlooked the issues that men face.

Feminism tends to look at society as a "patriarchy" wherein men oppress women. MRAs don't believe this was ever the case. There was never a real patriarchy that extracted resources solely from women in order to serve men. There have been female monarchs throughout history and almost every group was considered chattel at one point in the Western wolrd. Women by and large have received a disporoportionate amount of benefits relative to their contributions to society. That's not to say that women are deficient in any way. Simply that men have actually donated more to women than they have taken away.

For reference, consider racism. No Black people have ever had another person hold a door, or pull out a chair for them simply because they were Black. Women were never legally prevented from marrying anyone. And although Blacks were allowed to vote, they were subjected to unfair test and/or murdered after voting. American women secured the vote with no casualties. Their greatest opposition was from other Women. Women just have a totally different relationship with society that you can't really call "oppression".

As for specific issues: male circumcision, wage gap myth, selective service requirement for men to vote, legal parental surrender, men falling behind in every level of academics, sexual assault allegations.

Incels, Red Pill, etc. are on the "bad" part of the sphere of men's issues.

MRAs believe in equlaity and believe that Feminists, particularly modern Feminists, focus only on female issues but pretend to consider everyone. We believe they promote victimhood of women and scapegoat men as oppressors in order to lobby the government for financial and political gains.

I personally don't subscribe to groups because they enrage and inflate each other; but I do support men's rights. The rights I'm in support of is equality with parenting after divorce/ against the manifestation of Manliness and encourage men to be more "feminine" with their emotions and stop women from bashing men for not being "manly" enough. We can be just as caring and nurturing as women and don't need to be stigmatized.

I am curious. Just what rights do you not have?