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Is a religious upbringing detrimental to the mental health of children?

Our first intuitive response is "yes", because it must be bad for children's minds to tell them that they are sinners and to punish them for any minor misdemeanor (I think that there is a Bible verse like "He who loves his child chastises it" ).

But as far as I can see there is no scientific evidence that a religious upbringing is per se (!) detrimental to children.
It is obvious that there are religious parents who view their children as born sinners who deserve to be punished and those parents try to inculcate a strong sense of guilt into the mind of their offspring, which of course is highly detrimental to mental health.
But there are also religious parents who just love their kids and tell them that the Lord loves them too and that they are wonderful creatures, no sin, no guilt, no chastising... just caring and loving.

On the other hand there are nonreligious parents who are cold, strict or even abusive towards their children. We all know examples of both sides, but this only provides anecdotal "evidence".
Again: I could not find scientific evidence that would allow us to give a clear answer.
(NB : It is basically the same picture as with the question whether religion in general has positive or negative effects on mental health (of adults). Those meta-studies I know do not paint a picture of black and white but of shades of gray

Matias 8 Feb 15
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To whatever extent we are willing to trust science when it says it has found no evidence of the existence of a literal god, we are then, to the same extent, obligated to trust science when it says it has found no evidence that a religious upbringing is detrimental to children. To make an exception here would be to rely on personal experience instead of the scientific method. Cruelty, ignorance, and authoritarianism are a part of human potential regardless of the excuse used to exercise them.

skado Level 9 Feb 15, 2019
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Hi.....I don't have the answer to your question, but I was brought up in a Catholic home, sent to a Catholic school where 'brothers' from Ireland were appointed as teachers. I was beaten, humiliated and taunted by these tyrants. My spirit was broken and even into adulthood I was convinced that I was no good, I was ugly looking and not worth anything, and could never achieve anything substantial. That's what a strict religious upbringing did to me......

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Depends on the religion in my experience. The few non judgemental atheist religions are fine by me. I can conceive of a way to raise a kid in Buddhism, or TST satanism without the use of mental or physical abuse for example. I very rarely if ever have seen that as the case among parents teaching their kids a fundamentalist flavor of an abrahamic religion though.

Being raised Pentecostal for an over thinking, self critical kid like myself definitely resulted in unnecessary abuse and I hear a lot of the same from Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Mormons etc if they escape. Middle eastern death cults seem to make it pretty hard to stay laid back and open minded as parents and if you’re unlucky enough to be gay or trans in those communities your mental health prospects are universally fucked. Everyone does damage to their kids but those religions are extremely excessive. This topic reminds me of a poem:

This Be The Verse
BY PHILIP LARKIN
They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
They may not mean to, but they do.
They fill you with the faults they had
And add some extra, just for you.

But they were fucked up in their turn
By fools in old-style hats and coats,
Who half the time were soppy-stern
And half at one another’s throats.

Man hands on misery to man.
It deepens like a coastal shelf.
Get out as early as you can,
And don’t have any kids yourself.

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Any teaching that encourages children to disregard and be suspicious of scientific study is a blight on humanity. Any teaching that relies on magical thinking is heinous.

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There's a subtle but massive damage none of us recognize because we all live in the society created by pervasive religious culture. It's a fish-and-water situation, but in the case of religion, not only do we not notice the water, we don't notice the water is poisoned.

I call church Crazy School because it literally teaches people -- children most of all -- not to depend on evidence and reason in their approach to understanding and acting in the world, but on faith and authority. Once you teach kids THAT, they have no defense against countless other lies, con jobs and authoritative commandments.

Rather than a society-wide defense against stuff like that, each individual is left to their own devices to figure out what is true and false, what to believe and do. We leave every child, every adult, to the mercy of an entire CLASS of predators.Worse, we consider the situation an issue of personal freedom.

From the other direction, we actually encourage the predators. Not just religious predators, but corporate, social, governmental ... every aspect of society welcomes predation.

Children growing up in this culture learn that it is okay to believe literally ANYTHING, and every person around them will back away and accept it as some sort of personal choice, a fiercely-defended RIGHT.

Hell yes, it's detrimental. I suspect it has killed us all. We'll see the result very dramatically within our lifetimes.

I quite agree. Before you can say if something damages mental health you have to say what "mental health" is. If you include things like having respect for other life forms and the environment, for example, as having mental health (there are plenty of others), then yes it does.

@Matias Oh, you got a RANT. My God, you poor thing, getting a RANT.

Fortunately, you can just ignore the whole thing and fall back into the arms of Jesus.

Of course there is no double standard here, right? I mean God is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN. Unlike those silly claims of atheism.

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It was for me. The damage still won't seem to leave me. Since I was brought up in/indoctrinated into Christianity, I still have trouble accepting the reality of life not having meaning at face value. It is like as soon as I realize how free I am, I don't know what to do with it. I'm trying my best to move towards "you make your own meaning in life" that many nonreligious folks seem to go with.

Error! I just deleted a long, involved progression of thought leading to my own angst and search for self.
I paraphresed a tidbit from the bible (vs. other "Abrahamic" religious tomes), " When I was a child, I thought as a child and when I grew up, I put away childish things ".

My understanding and acceptance of my own sentience and intelligence is the driving force to put away childish things, like gods, stories that make no sense and wisdom that is anything but.

I also feel the emptiness of losing something that has been part of me since before I knew it, like my mother and my father. Maybe angst isn't what I feel, just the loss of a dear ideal. Then there is the anger I feel for having taken so long to examine the evidence and logic of these myths. Forgive me, I'm trying very hard to avoid preaching.

Freedom to be aware, to understand the difference between evidence and fiction, between research, logical conclusion, and belief, coupled with sadness at a love lost and anger at being snookered (and allowing myself to be snookered) for so long.

The old adage that freedom isn't free, it comes at a high price, rings true. I am free and I accept the accountability that comes with it. Join me.

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I think you have already outlined that there are numerous factors involved in being a good parent, or otherwise. To focus on religious indoctrination alone would be to ignore all other factors. Taken in isolation, we who think we are more enlightened by being free of religious belief, would naturally think it is detrimental to children to be so brainwashed by their parents into believing anything, without questioning why. Whilst I think it is important for children to be allowed to question and use critical thought, and not to just accept what their parents tell them, there also must be a recognition that millions of children grow up in the belief system and are happy and well adjusted, without mental health issues. There are no doubt some cases, where, in extremely religiously observant families lasting harm is done to children, but in no way is this a universal truth.

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It depends largely on whethr the parents view their religious beliefs as "floor values" or ceiling values" If they use their beliefs as floor values, they use them as a foundation from which to reach out or grow.That encourages the children to be open to expedrience and to contacts with others.

If they view their religious beliefs asw ceiling values, they emphasize the negatives, the "shalt nots", and the rejection of other people and groups who do not concur with their beliefs. That encourages lbeing highly judgmental, on discrimination against others who are different, and ethnocentrism. Those effects are highly negative.

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Yes it is possible to ruin a person for life and then they become critics of the non believers and cause us all kinds of problems.

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Being told that something is always watching you, if you do good things you'll go to heaven and if you do bad things you will go to hell is a real mind fuck. I'm not sure what the studies say about it but I think it's a great way to control the masses by brainwashing them into doing whatever you call "good".

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Depends upon the religious upbringing. The children of those true fanatics who tend to lean heavily towards the more violent aspects of their religion will likely lead difficult lives because of their upbringing, where as the kids of more moderate believers who embrace the more loving and peaceful teachings of their religion will raise healthier, happier and more successful children.

A moderate religious upbringing can actually be a good thing. It gives a child a sense of purpose and a belief that they are a part of something which is larger than themselves. Religion is, of course, not the only way in which to instill this into the young, but it is one way of doing so if the lesson doesn't go overboard in to tyranny and abject fear.

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I cannot remember any studies, but I have observed over my timetime, the damage done with the Christian Religion to the minds of children that grew up to be adults. If that wasn’t bad enough it was then passed to the next generation.

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Hard to respond with a general answer. Religion in most cases provides a framework of accepted behavior, but how it is taught is key and that depends on the religion itself and the parents. A person can be made to feel worthless, shameful and bad with any given set of parents with or without religion.

JZBEE Level 4 Mar 14, 2019
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It really depends on the leadership at developmentally crucial periods. Christians, in my experience, seem to think the teaching of religion is unchanging. However, every pastor that was hired to lead had a different take depending on what they had to justify to keep the money coming in steadily.

I might not be an atheist if I hadn't been exposed to religious teaching growing up. I'd probably be like the majority of people who just accept the title of Christian because I've never considered being anything else.

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Teaching children religion is a lessor evil than teaching them that socialism is superior to capitalism.

I think you miss the point. It's not economic, political, or religious theory, its whether we raise our children to respect other peoples' rights as well as our own.

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Along that same point - isnt it wrong to fool children in believing in Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, etc?

gater Level 7 Feb 17, 2019

At least in the case of the tooth fairy and Santa they are not threatening you with hell for non-compliance.

@Trajan61 lol good point 🙂

@Trajan61 Shit! Weren't you afraid that the tooth fairy was going to steal ALL your teeth for some dastardly satanic reason!

@Geoffrey51 , honestly? No.

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You've made the case, I can't elaborate on what you've posted!

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I was mentally damaged by being raised in the Moron (oops, Mormon) religion. I have, happily, received counselling after leaving the Morons, and am now rather sound of mind.

So glad to hear of your recovery. I still recall all the times I feared I'd missed the rapture. It was mental anguish.

@ElusiveMoby They had me believing I was headed straight for Hell. Psychologists know that masturbation is natural, normal and healthy. The Morons, however, make it a sin, even for unmarried youth. Their suppression of a natural, normal and healthy activity caused me such anguish that it nearly drove me crazy. I'm so glad that I'm enlightened now! 🙂

@BestWithoutGods It's unfathomable, isn't it? I used to be a fundamentalist. I used to promote such hyperbolic beliefs. I just want to say how sorry I am you endured such treatment.

Haha! You made me laugh! Some 40 years ago, newly married and fixing up our first house, we were painting the exterior. It was beautiful that late October as we went up and down on ladders working our way around the walls.
We stopped early to treat the trick or treaters coming to our door that Halloween evening.
The next day, we returned to our project. As I was getting everything set up, I began and I suddenly stopped and started laughing.
My wife asked what broke me up and I responded, (noting it was November 1st) " I proclaim a new church. We are the Church of the Saints' Day Ladders, You know us, we're the Morons! ".
Apologies to any offended, but we almost dropped the paint...that would have been a mess. Thanks for the memory.

@Beamdump2020 lol. That reminds me of a joke: A man was painting a church, but about halfway through he discovered that he didn't have enough paint to finish the job. He asked the pastor for more paint. The pastor refused. So the painter thinned the paint and continued his job. After a while, he thinned it a little more. He continued thinning until he finally reached the bottom, where the new, very thinned paint was hardly visible. He stepped back to look at it from a distance, but it still looked bad. Then a voice came out of the heavens: "Repaint, repaint, and thin no more!"

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Religion is bad for everyone. Especially children.

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It can trap some of them into growing into really blind, ignorant adults. That may not qualify as mental health, but it sure ain't a good thing.

@Matias Religion is based on a lie. If it is based on a lie, it is a bad thing. This is not difficult.

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I think it depends on the KIND of religion the parents belong to. If they emphasize hell and punishment, tell their children sex is sinful etc then that's not going to be psychologically healthy for the child. If they emphasize what I call "hippie Jesus" and teach them to love their neighbor and not judge others, I think that is fine. The children may eventually grow out of the belief in the mythical figures just like they mature out of believing in Santa Claus. They may not, though. Either way, what we should be concerned about is do they turn out to be empathetic, caring people.

Orbit Level 7 Feb 15, 2019

Totally agree with your comment. I was brought up Catholic but my parents never preached about it. My mom led by example on how to treat others. We were allowed to do want we wanted once past confirmation. I think they were both relieved they didn't need to keep up the pretense once we were all of age (they didn't go to church afterwards). Of the five of us, 1 remained Catholic, 2 switched to Methodist and 2 atheists. Not bad but not damaged near as I can tell. At least both altar boy brothers were not abused. Thank goodness.

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I don't think it's simple as guilt and sin. Religion can be very comforting. You're never really alone for one thing. I think it's a mixed bag from a mental health standpoint. I can think of many other positives and negatives.

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I'd say it could be either way. I've known people who raised their children to be intelligent critical thinkers while also being religious, the religion mostly acting as an encouragement to treat other people well. They raised their children to be intelligent competent caring people.
I've also seen the opposite in which parents were raising their children to deny scientific evidence & avoid critical thinking if the conclusions from such would disagree with their preconceived religious views. They raise their children to be angry judgemental incompetent idiots.

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The sun was rising before there was scientific proof that it rose. Just because something hasn't been scientifically proven don't mean it isn't true. If there isn't scientific proof that a religious upbringing isn't detrimental to mental health then it's still up for debate. I know I've seen an article recently about religious trauma syndrome. Some religions are detrimental to mental health, apparently.

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