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Something that happened the other day as I am leaving the grocery store I have to share. As I am heading out the door & parked the grocery cart back in the stall at Alde's, if you are not familiar with their set up, you pay a quarter to use their carts & there is a wall or area that stacks them. So I noticed this nasty smell as I come around the corner.. and I thought I was going to puke. This dude, older somewhat heavy set, and I had to do a double take to make sure he didn't shit his pants. Nothing is worse than smelling someone in a bad way before you see them. To give you a full visual, it was like sour milk, road kill, puke & dog shit all at once. Hit me like a mac truck. I was so tempted to run back in and buy a bar or soap and walk up to him and say.. go wash that nasty ass before you leave the house next time. How can anyone NOT smell their own stank.. hygiene is close to sexiness.. that's all I'm saying.

mistymoon77 9 Feb 28
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As unpleasant as this must have been, for you, I feel bad for the person, who probably had no way to clean himself, or unable to do so for some reason. No one wants to feel or be dirty so I assume this person had no choice or wasnt able to attend to his hygeine. This makes me sad for this person, who clearly needs help but has no one to care for him.

The sad thing about this is that back in the day, we had public bathing houses. I read about this as part of my social justice studies, while getting my teaching license, in college. Back in the early 20th century (1930-ish) we had public bathing. Women on this and that day, men on other days. Then we started to have home bathrooms and the public baths were converted to swimming pools and segregated... there was a whole ballyhoo about it. One of the effects was that people of color didn't get bathrooms in their homes for quite some time and lost the ability to use the public washing facilities and thus got a reputation... <sigh> It was a wee bit ugly for a bit... and no, I don't mean to run the conversation down this rabbit hole.

<sigh> What I mean to point out is that back in the day, there were regular facilities maintained by cities that allowed people to get clean. Whether or not you owned a home, you could get clean (and we valued people who could make their own way in the world). Now? Now you can't do that (get clean), generally, unless you own a home, or pay to stay in a hotel, OR pay to stay at some sort of facility that has lavatories.

I think that in some ways we are marching in the wrong direction. :/

Here is a link to an NPR article on the subject. They talk to the book that I believe I studied in school "Contested Waters: A Social History of Swimming Pools in America" by Jeff Wiltse:

[npr.org]

What I recall of it was a fascinating read... my memory is sketchy enough I may have to reread it soon. 🙂

This man was fully functional walking, normal.. there was no excuse for it.

@mistymoon77 walking does not connote ...normal! Lol

@Freedompath what I am saying is he was not handicapped, he was doing the same thing we all were doing.. going to the grocery store to shop.

@mistymoon77 Perhaps he was homeless. Perhaps he has only one set of clothes, so he has nothing to wear if he wanted to wash his clothes. I would not assume that being dirty is his first choice; rather, I would assume that he has nowhere to go to GET clean. The (judgmental) bar of soap will do him no good if there's no place for him to get access to water to use it.

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Early symptoms of Alzheimer's disease include the loss of taste and smell senses. This might have been the case in the instance you described.

Well that makes me nervous I have a male friend who is incredibly nose blind.

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If he was homeless, it is likely that he had no place to bathe or clean clothes to put on even if he did have a place to wash.

I was wondering the same thing, however, there was been no indication regarding this.

In the U.S., it's been more than unfortunate that they closed the asylums, but left all these people loose, unable to completely care for themselves.

Thank you! I was wondering if anyone was going to consider that maybe he doesn't have the "means" to do better.
Sure, if your boss has an unpleasant odor, you know it isn't from no place to clean up but keep in mind, some people are sensitive to deodorant, etc. so do not use these. Some people just choose not to, that's up to them. It may impact their love life but who knows? As mentioned, there are also people who have olfactory challenges or are just adapted to their own odors. Prime example is people I've encountered who live with a male cat and they are oblivious to the odor the cat leaves by spraying.
Personally, I don't "bathe" every day. My skin cannot handle that, especially during cold weather, psoriasis will leave my skin cracked, raw and burning. I use deodorant but it can fail.
Sometimes the right thing to do is stop and consider what you don't know about the person's situation. They may not deserve the judgement and scorn laid upon them.

Not a homeless guy.. he had a car... he was going in to purchase groceries. Looked normal.

@mistymoon77 Normal or normally mentally ill? Or did he have a colostomy bag that was leaking gas?

@dahermit that I was not about to check.., think I would pass on that one.

@mistymoon77 He may have been living in his car...no showers in there either.

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Yeah, thats horrible! I feel the same way around patchouli.

Old English Leather does my head in. Instant asthma and migraine.

me too aged hippy tough I am !

patchouli gives me flashbacks

Yes Tony, you got what I meant.. thats exactly what I was trying to get at.. not about judging this man,.. I have no clue what was up with him.. he sure was not homeless, he dressed well, he didn't appear filthy, he looked fine to me from the glimpse of what I saw which was enough. 🙂 but ya, it just boggles my mind on how some people are oblivious to certain odors where others, they could care less.

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Did he look dirty? Because sometimes disease or a condition can cause that too.

It is terrible to be around a smell like that I agree.

No, see thats just it.. I would have never noticed anything odd other than he reeked that bad.. omg.. it was to a point of almost throwing up. This is not a judgment call on anything other than some people just have very bad hygiene.

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People get used to their own smell.

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My Thai ESL teacher agency once hired a French Canadian woman who stank so badly, it took hours for the air to clear after she left, and the students complained bitterly.

My Thai boss politely asked her to bathe and use deoderant, and she flew into a rage and began screaming at her for "insulting" her.
The bewildered boss asked me afterward what she'd done wrong and I told her that many French only bathe a few times a week, suggesting she alter her foreign teacher ads to include "good personal hygiene" as a qualifying factor.

I’m canadian, we bathe daily, French Canadians, well I assume they do too,,, i think this woman was opposed to bathing and it has nothing to do with being French Canadian but who knows. I know French Canadians and they bathe and shower every day, I think its just this one particularl person, i really can't say.

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there are many reasons out of his control that could cause this. He probably needs help

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I see this as a combination of homelessness and mental health. People get used to smells and, no, he probably didn't know how bad he smelled (I have a friend with a big dog. Her car smells like wet dog but she doesn't notice a thing). This has gotten to the crisis level and will get even worse. There are fewer and fewer programs to help with this (except, of course the one's where religion is pushed on these people). Other countries deal with this through leveling higher taxes and using the money for social programs, as it should be. The Republicans don't think this is worth dealing with and keep hollering "Socialism". It is a social/political issue.

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Makes you wonder about humans 1000 years ago. Ha, how many of today's pampered humans could have lived in the past? Or in the modern Third World

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Mental illness...keep your distance.

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I hate it when you are in a restaurant & someone comes in & their smell just lingers. It's just not right!

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It's not about passing judgement on someone drawing all these conclusions from homeless to mental health problems. That is not what I am referring to here at all. People overall, we are drawn to each other's pheromones. That's what attracts each other unless they are covered up by nasty smells, or perfume,etc. Yes, this particular situation threw me for a loop because it stood out and was so bad. Regardless of whatever situation one is in, how many of you have ran into a personal situation where you either dated someone, or knew someone, etc.. and their odor was something you just couldn't stand or handle. That is why I make the last remark above... which I am guessing no one caught it.. hygiene is close to sexiness meaning if it's important to most, maybe not all but if one comes in contact with someone that just down right smells funky, you can't tell me you wouldn't raise a brow or red flag.

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To me that is clear mental disorder...I don't know what could have been done in that case! Who to call? Do like. Aldi's though!

yes but its about the smell.. the odor that is was so pungent.. maybe someone else wouldn't have blinked an eye but it was very noticeable to me.. that's all I am saying here.

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I have a good sense of both smell and hearing. Some people in checkout lines have bad smells and you know by being there that they do not bathe properly or often. Disgusting.

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For next shopping adventure carry a bottle of pinesol in your bag.

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That one seems worse than most.

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Could be just a display of sensory adaptation. Aside from the smell, did he look clean?

He really looked perfectly normal. It wasn't like he had nasty ass clothes but then again, I didn't examine him either.. just sayin.. I got out of the area as quick as possible.

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And I don't know what to tell you. My first Division Officer on my first ship. Was very smart as any other in Navy Communications but he was always sweating and his sweat stinked. He could walk into a space and the whole room will know he walked in. I understand what you dealt with was lack of hygiene but I saw on my basketball playing days... guys that took a shower before the game because even team mates will tell them I can not get close to you. Body odor is not the same for everyone, some can not help themselves but to keep it up constantly... and you are right... hygiene is close to sexiness!!! And some people out there could be very offensive with their smell indeed.

This wasn't like a body odor thing.. what I posted on what it smelled like is about as close as you can get to it.. was just so bad.

@mistymoon77 no excuse for the individual, no excuse.

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Its called biology. Your brain acclimates itself to its own smell. He was also very likely homeless. That happens most with homeless people. I feel sorry for him and you.

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We are so fortunate to live in a time when personal odor isn't commonplace. A hundred and more years ago just about everyone emitted some amount of it, varying at times of course. When deodorant came out, it seemed only women used it. FINALLY, men caught on and today detecting body odor is pretty rare.

Hard to imagine times when garbage wasn't tied in plactic, there were no fly swatters and lots more flies, no air conditioning, no deodorant, baths on Saturday night, no effective mouthwash and people were terrified of dentists!

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