I'm thinking that's the only answer that makes sense.

Even this website wants you to label yourself. None of those labels accurately describe my thinkings or believings. I guess it's also an efficiency thing. The label would be to help others know me. So far, nobody has come up with an acceptable label.

@GlyndonD Thank you for answering my question. Good luck finding your label.

So, "Irreligious" is what you suggest? That suggests I just don't believe in religions. I could still believe in mysticism. How about Amysticist?

@GlyndonD I'm suggesting no label as you appear to lack a system of beliefs. If I had to pick a religious label, nihilist would be mine as all gods are baseless and my life has the same meaning as my dog's, none that I can find.

I have my beliefs, as everyone does, but they don't include the existence of gods or spirits. "Atheist" and "agnostic" talk about the existence of gods. They don't say anything about the existence of spirits. And thus my inquiry.

how about not splitting hairs? just saying

@GlyndonD There just words. I simply don't understand the desire to label yourself for the things you don't do. We don't require labels for people who don't rape or kill.

See above.

oh, I completely understand that. I was more on about atheist, believer, devil worshipper. the key is to ask and not assume

And this is exactly what I'm talking about. I don't believe gods exist (therefore, I'm an atheist), and I also don't believe that souls, spirits, or ghosts exist. What label encompasses both of these disbeliefs?

Do I need to add a label to my being an atheist? What would that label be which says I don't believe in souls, spirits, or ghosts? And you're sure there isn't one label that encompasses both of these labels? That's what I'm searching for.

But sufficient? Do you care if it deals with what you believe regarding life after death?

@GlyndonD As an atheist, I have no god belief. As a somewhat educated person, I know what happens to the physical human body after death. When the brain dies, consciousness dies. The end.

I think the struggle to accept that end, the human fear of no longer existing is what gives rise to supernatural beliefs.

I agree. I've posted my theory of how evolution's survival instinct morphed into human being's creation of the concept of a soul and eternal life. Humans, along with every other animal, will do anything they can to escape death, except that humans will also employ an idea as well as their legs.

I'm going with Asupernaturalist. And that's that.

But what about life after death? That's my point that many people refuse to acknowledge. I guess they've lost their faith in the existence of a god, but still cling to a faith that they will "live" forever.

How silly that, too.

Nope

@GlyndonD Meaning 'Nope its isn't as good as any' or 'Nope I don't need a label'?

@Coffeo yep

I think, therefore I am.

I don't need one. I want one. Along with, or including, having the convenience associated with the atheist label, I want the convenience of having a label for those of us that don't believe in life after death. Comprende?

Agreed

I'm happy you've found sufficient labels for yourself. I apologize for any inconvenience I've caused you in seeking mine.

@GlyndonD no inconvenience at all.
I have observed throughout the years that fixed labels, boxes and brackets cannot properly describe life's fluidity in motion. People and their faiths are of a gradient as well.

@Leafhead At a minimum, the label I'm seeking is for someone who does not believe in life after death.

That would be consistent, but if I call myself a naturalist, would a person then think I don't believe in gods or spirits? I don't think that would do the trick for me.

@GlyndonD Yes. You said you don't believe in gods or spirits or ghosts. That's philosophical Naturalism. Belief only in the natural world.

True, but to the layman, being a naturalist probably means I eat a lot of granola and walk around naked all the time. That's not fulfilling my objectives in finding a good label for my beliefs and lack thereof.

@GlyndonD Hence the qualifier 'philosophical', cause I knew you were gonna go there.

@GlyndonD I doubt many "laymen" will be talking to you. And if they do, they'll probably leg it sharpish.

Nice.

Labels can provide a very efficient way of conveying information. For example, I'm guessing that you came to this website because of the label "agnostic". I'm just looking for a better label than that for me and others like me.

That's not specific to my disbelief in gods or spirits. It would only cause confusion to people I'm trying to describe myself to.

They don't address life after death.

@GlyndonD that is because it is in the realm of the unknown 'of that we cannot speak' as it is 'unknown' we don't need words for a state that is not yet proven to exist.

I want to quickly and correctly transfer the information to someone that I don't believe in gods or spirits. Labels can sometimes perform that function very well. Got a better label than "Atheist" that will fulfill my objective?

Agreed. By "soul", I meant our consciousness/personality/being, etc..