On a dating site, a man sent me his phone number and asked me to call. Luckily, he also wrote:
"I need say honestly that I am not in a position to get in an intimate relationship right now since I am in an on again off again relationship for the last 7 years. There are many things that pull us together and break us apart. We have a lot of uncertainty about a future together with many complicated family dynamics and other issues. We both have a strong physical connection which is very tied into feelings of love, security, and intimacy, but some reality differences that we might not overcome."
I replied:
"Andy, Why are you on this dating site with an ongoing seven-year relationship? It's like a married man trolling for sex. Break up, reflect, take responsibility for your actions and learn from it. Heal first. Then look for another relationship if you are ready."
"Men think with their small heads," my married hiking partner Karen said.
Your thoughts?
I’ve heard that story so many times. Plus: ‘I can’t get sex from my wife.’ I respond that I’m not interested in married, separated, or attached men.
‘But I have neeeeeeds’(I always hear it that way, as a long whine, lol. NEEEEEEEEEDS).
Well, sir, your neeeeeeds are not MY problem.
It can get very ugly after that, so block buttons are my friend.
OMG! I have heard that one three times just this year!!!!!! Lol!
Ironically enough, if they'd take the time/money they invest in dating sites to "get thier needs met" they could afford a hooker once or twice a month and get thier "needs" taken care of.
You're smart to turn them down, them not being cost efficient and all.
Love your hilarious reply! My married female friends are disgusted with their husbands.
"He needs to show appreciation for me," Karen said. "When he's critical and mean, I don't want sex with him."
"Let's have some sex before you leave," Gro's husband said. He didn't kiss her or show affection. "Is that all you've got?" she asked.
Where does sex fall on the hierarchy of NEEDS? Wants is more likely.
Their needs is a cry of being selfish. It will not change. In a real relationship each person's "needs" is to be for each other.
Wow, that's some ego there! You mean you weren't bowled over by what an opportunity it is to date him?
It's odd that he's sending such mixed messages. Even if he was only on the site for hook-ups, your profile would not have that as an option for you. It sounds like he wants you to magically make him fall in love with you enough that it will be easier for him to end the relationship he's in, so you called it: he needs to take responsibility.
This was his first contact with you -- his phone number and his life story?
Maybe it's me but I just don't get that approach. I'd have to take some time to get to know someone. Even the one-nighters I've had were with women who I'd gotten to know first.
Half the fun is in the flirtation. Immediately propositioning a complete stranger online comes across as desperate and uninspired to me. It's bewildering why so many people try it.
I get wanting sex but that approach is lazy and impatient.
We exchanged messages about being atheists and Democrats. He wrote long messages. I replied succinctly.
"OK I will stop blathering on now," he wrote. "I do truly apologize for the multiple messaging. There are times where I find something or someone very interesting and want to learn more. I noticed your agnostic.com T-shirt...."
Then he sent his phone number and revealed his long-term relationship.
@LiterateHiker Okay so he made a cursory attempt at making a connection then quickly went into his pitch for nookie. Yup. Lazy and uninspired.
@LiterateHiker the usual game plan for a scammer is to get the mark off the site and into a more private setting to avoid being monitored or reported.
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I just got out of a relationship with someone from a dating site who was in the same position. When we first started getting together, he told me there was a "90% chance" he would never go back with her, because she was abusive. When he did eventually go back with her, I told him he never should have been on that dating site, involving me in his problems. He blamed me for having feelings for him, and told me I should have known. What a jerk! There are so many like that. I met a man earlier who said he was separated, but he wasn't. When he eventually did leave his wife, he wanted to date me, but I am NOT interested in a cheater. WTF is wrong with people! Why can't they just leave other people out of their problems until their heads are on straight? They always accuse their dating partners of having "drama", when it is they who are creating it. I am so easy to get along with, but can do without this kind of thing. All I want is a nice relationship with someone who is free. End of rant.
The term "drama" has been brought up several times on this site. Most of us want no part of it. However, I have seen some actually relish it and the emotional swings is what they need. It is said people are often attracted to what they are used to. An indication can often be found by asking about their childhood.
Yes, my last partner seemed to not be happy unless he was in his last abusive relationship. He liked the emotional stimulation it gave him, apparently.
"but I am NOT interested in a cheater. "
But, you were in a relationship with one? What's changed?
Right. If I find out he's married, or even already involved with someone, I don't want to hear why he feels justified in seeking affection elsewhere, I don't care if she's a shrew, if he's unhappy, if they have some kind of "agreement," or any other excuse. I'm out.
It’s so true of men today. Many even put MGTOW (men going their own way) to only see women for sex not dating. They apparently feel comfortable with their lives and not needing anyone to “grow old with”. It’s a sad state for women who want just one guy in their lives...
Please don't use that man to represent all men. Many of us can't even find one relationship.
Tbh it sound like he might be in the same boat, when it comes down to it.
Far too many men (and I suspect women as well) look for another relationship to give them the courage to break up with an existing one. If the present one is bad be done with it. Finding another beforehand will only lead to more of what you left.
When I was breaking up with a former partner (I had even left the house) I met another in my ZPG group. She was interested and even asked me out. I told her that would be great but I had to finish the one I was still in and she accepted this. Later, when the relationship was finally over (and I was back in my house) I asked her out and she said she had gotten into another relationship. She had a bad feeling about it, though but would I wait. Months later hers was over and we did become friends (wb). Finally, a nice stable relationship with a smart, emotionally stable person. It didn't last as she wanted a commitment (more like a move in together type) and I wasn't ready.
Carrying way too much baggage. Unhappy in current situation but afraid of change. Run. Run fast
A good friend (Estonian) says in her accent.
"Them mens.
Always thinking with their Johnny"
@OwlInASack there exceptions to every rule.
That's why we need a woman for president: Warren 2020.
@MichaelSpinler Where do you get such folderol? Faux News?
@MichaelSpinler I prefer reality to a comedian who promotes conspiracy theories.
@MichaelSpinler Well, obviously we have different viewpoints. You think I am wrong and I think you are wrong. Why don't we both widen our horizons and think scientifically about what is truth and what is not. Let's look for facts, evidence, logic and valid reasoning. Mere opinion without these things is useless, and even dangerous.
Yes men think with the small head. Some women are catching up also and doing the same thing. It's wrong either way. To me it's showing a lack of respect for the partner in the relationship. I treat people the way that I like to be treated. If I don't want it done to me I will not do it to you.
Why would he do that,?
@bobjr
Exactly.
After three years, I broke up with Dan because he was deeply afraid and incapable of love or commitment. It was too painful to love a man who could not love me in return.
I saw a therapist to identify why I was willing to accept far less than I deserve or need. I learned from the experience, took responsibility for my part, and let the bad feelings go.
After a year, Dan and I continued as friends and hiking partners.
@LiterateHiker Took me 8 months but I ended the relationship for the same reason. I am looking to be happy and I am not afraid to love someone.
Some people are so afraid of being alone that they want to make sure they have someone lined up and ready to move on to before they can let go of the previous partner. Most of the time they're not even aware they're doing this, or if they are, that there's anything wrong with it.
i wouldn’t get involved with a married man myself because i think i’m too insecure for that, but as long as everyone involved is aware and consenting, there’s nothing wrong with it. of course, if they’re not telling their partners, it’s cheating, but i think people often lump poly folks in with cheaters.