Who makes the first move is neither important nor any real cause for concern. The worst case scenario is that the other person is not interested in a romantic relationship with you so maybe you become friends or you walk away or you nurse a bruised ego.

Years ago I chatted with a woman online and on the sixth or seventh chat she suggested that we could draw up a prenuptial agreement. At best I found her suggestion to be hilarious and at worst I considered her to be someone who is a con artist. She reminded me of another woman with whom I chatted for three consecutive days and on the third day she typed in the chat window: "I've got very expensive tastes," I replied: "I'm delighted to learn about your very expensive tastes, I hope you can afford them".

So, if there someone that you like online or elsewhere then simply pluck up the courage, break the ice, ask them out for a date in some public place where it is not too noisy so that you can get to know each other and decide if you want to pursue a relationship with that person, There is no need to turn it into a game.

Just be yourself really. if you want something and its within your grasp ask away.

As an older man, I find it hazardous to treat women like women. I now treat them as objects, at least until I know them well enough where I can treat them like people without them taking offense to a compliment. All the Sexual Harassment training has drilled it into us men that women can be offended by anything.

At 57 years of age now, I grew up in a society where the man approaches a woman. I developed thick skin when it comes to rejection. When I was in sales it was useful to imagine yourself saying “thank you” after each rejection because you are on your way to a “yes” because the conventional wisdom suggested that you have success 1 out of every 10 attempts. It’s not as hard as I thought because after starting a conversation, eye contact, voice and body language belies a person’s attraction so you know whether to pursue a closer relationship. On the other hand, I would welcome initiation of interest by a woman. Her radar of intuition will inform her of where she stands probably quicker than a guy would notice. However, with a site like this, eye contact, body language and voice don’t apply. So we’ve got that going for us eh? ?

I'm not gonna lie, it would be really, really, really nice if I didn't have to do the chasing for once. At the very least it would feel good to know that I'm wanted. But I agree with the concensus here that games are getting old.

There are too many qualifiers needed due to the vast differences not only between different genders but within each particular one as well.

For me it seems this should be determined by the situation. In situations of dating and attraction I have been on both sides of the social fence. I have been pursued and I have been the pursuer. If I was to give my younger self any advice in this area I would say if you are interested go for it. Why wonder about what could have been; step up and find out.

I will always practice a certain amount of chivalry. I am turned on also by a certain amount of "tomboyishness". I think it's about respect and the kind of person you want to be with.

A man can be masculine and a man can be feminine. A woman can be feminine and a woman can be masculine. That's my take on it anyways. There's nothing wrong with identifying as the gender you feel most strongly with. Whether that be cis or trans.

The responses are all over the place here, and it is interesting. And as with any response, your experiences in life, age and many other factors guide your response. That said, from my vantage point, old school courting of becoming extinct. Although not extinct yet what of it is still alive has become muddled in confusion when it comes to roles and expectations.

Today I see men not being men and women not being women (of the old). Men have crossed the line with lack of respect for women. And women have lost respect for themselves. I have never been one to say a woman should subject herself to a man's stupidity or cruelty. And men should respect themselves enough to know "before" they cross that line. It's all about "me" today. Giving of oneself is a dying attribute. To pursue a woman with dignity and honor was enjoyable. To be pursued by a honorable man was worth her time was charming. Both understood their self worth. And understood you get me only if you are worth it. Once you get me...we live as one in peace and love.

I am a Romantic, at heart and until I die, I write poems, songs... I treat the woman as a lady... I am very secure of never ending with a broken heart. But that is just me... because is how I choose to be. Every predator at some point will be a prey. Is the mating game. The trap is set... the hunter/hunted waits. But everything should be about you... Do you enjoy the courtship? Because if you dont... there is no fun and a man should understand that.

I wish a woman would make a move on me, I am tired of games

It is called chivalry, from the code of behaviour for the knights of old. I avidly subscribe to it, whilst also allowing a woman to "go Dutch" if she so desires. Why shouldn't men open doors and allow women through first? However, women should play their part and be gracious about it. Everyone ends up happy.

Of course it's fine for a woman to ask the question, but equally, she shouldn't have to. What's concerning is the increasing reservations that men seem to have about asking, for fear of being seen as predatory. Yes, men need to stop treating women as property. The objectification has to end. The Islamic world is a long way off achieving this, but the Western one is currently trying too hard, taking things too far, demonising and even criminalising the traditional human mating ritual.

No don't act like anything be yourself if acting is what you do best then by all means but it feels better to go with what feels natural to you.

In the past , women had little choice , in getting with the man she wanted . Yes she could flirt , if given the opportunity , but , it wasn't lady like to approach a man . Basically , she was left with only the accept or reject portion of a relationship , and even today , a man who is rejected , may feel he was shamed and depending to a large extent on his culture , may feel he has the right to punish or even kill a woman for rejecting him . In some cultures , the parents still arrange marriages , and the couple may not even meet the intended until just before the wedding . Hopefully , the parents will have what is best for the intendeds in mind , but unfortunately , it may have more to do with finances , or how the parents will profit , rather than if the intendeds are compatible . Today , in this country , more women are able to make their own choices , and can readily approach a man she may have an interest in . That doesn't mean she's going to get what she truly wants in a relationship . Men frequently turn down a woman , because he feels she's too aggressive , or he may think she's only interested only in a sexual encounter , and sometimes that is exactly what she wants .

I have to agree with most of the responses below. Different folks of both genders will approach things the way they feel most comfortable. Tho there is still a lot of the "old fashioned" attitude out there, & some of that is fine & fun, someone who doesn't fit that mold should not be worried about going their own way!

Guys feel insecure and women feel they have to be strong because a lot of the courting rituals are still heavily entrenched, not because they are changing. I'm all for everyone feeling free to be the pursuer, for discussions about when/if to marry (rather than big surprise proposals), and for not pretending women are prizes to be won.

I think that what was once the social norm when I was a teenager (overtly masculine sexual behaviour toward women), became less socially acceptable with the advent of feminism. The new gender sexual politics confused a number of young men from my era, who wanted to be mindful of not being overly chauvinistic, but at the same time also wanting to maintain a certain level of masculinity for perhaps fear of losing their gender identity. Certainly from my experience women tended to be became more sexually independent and not worry so much about the social morays. This was both great and scary, (sometimes at the same time), but I had lots of fun along the way.

You should be yourself. If you enjoy being pursued great. if enjoy pursuing then have at it.

It's different now. We also have more transgender people coming out as well. #Metoo is out as well. Men aren't asking as many women out because they are afraid of sexual assault charges.

When It Comes Too Romance I Think Men Still Court Women With Chivalry.

I think depending on what the parties like to do for one another
If you are ahppy with that i don't see there is a problem.

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<That is up to the individual. Less I remind you that you will be treated as you are precieved!