It’s disturbing to me that some liberal judges including most of those appointed by Clinton and Obama don’t think the 2nd amendment gives private citizens the right to have a firearm!

The US along with a few other countries like the Cezch republic and Switzerland are one of the few countries where you are allowed to have a firearm for self defence. In most of the others your at the mercy of the criminals. I’ll take the US over the others any day. The second amendment could never be repealed anyway. But there is the danger that the appointment of liberal judges could undermine the second amendment. You go ahead and give your guns to the government. I plan on keeping mine come hell or high water. @Lancer

@Trajan61
The problem is a lack of responsibility on the part of the parents who failed to raise these children who commit mass murder. The parents are responsible for the proper upbringing of the child until they reach the age of 18. If a child commits mass murder then the parent has failed.

Decades of liberal values has polluted the minds of the young, psychologically altering medication is being prescribed to children whose brains have not yet fully formed.
Yes, the USA has many problems and everyone can try to solve those problems however they want to. But at the end of the day there will still be deaths, either in this century or the next. The deaths at schools and the deaths on the streets will not stop. People have had 50000 years to throw down their weapons, but they didn't. Because they knew that even if they disarmed themselves, their enemies would not. Bearing arms is a message to the criminals, it shows that they will not sit by as everything they love is taken away from them.

I can agree on some gun control (much as I would wish other people could just be responsible with guns... sadly that won't happen) such that if someone is not of sane mind, they can't get a gun. Most problematic people in society in general can easily be identified in school. I know many people I wouldn't want to let have guns in my school, the drug dealers or the "rich boy" idiots (One rich kid strangled his friend unconscious during a class and said "it was an accident" and everyone at school went "HOW THE HELL IS THAT ACCIDENTAL YOU PSYCHO" but unfortunately his dad was a multi-millionaire who inherited the family business that his father made with drug money. They're an Italian family. The kid got 3 days suspension. If I were the school I'd expel him forever.). The bullies as well shouldn't have access to guns at least until they can undergo a psychological evaluation to determine if they're mentally stable enough for it.

To be honest my country can't really talk about the gun debate. We implemented strict gun laws but we also gave several rifles to a guy who had a history of domestic abuse, child abuse, alcohol abuse and he killed 2 police officers. That's kind of hypocritical to say the least.

If we allow the government to determine what weapons we will have for self defence especially with people like Obama and Clinton we will be swiftly disarmed and won’t even have any guns available for self defence. Lacking the ability to disarm people by a vote of the people they intended to circumvent the 2nd amendment by appointing liberal judges that interpreted it like they want. @Lancer

@Trajan61
I agree with you Trajan. I don't want some yahoo with a full security detail telling me I can't defend myself. Or some liberal judge with police officers in the room, to decide if I can defend myself with a 9mm or a potato gun. It's not acceptable.

As a liberal who likes democratic socialism, I think you're both insane. Slippery slope fallacies are the worst arguments.

@NFAguy53 If the liberals would study a little history maybe we wouldn’t have so many problems as there’s never in history been a very successful socialist society.

Or maybe you just don't know history that well. Socialism is less a style of government than it is government. Taxes are pretty much the foundation of socialism. The difference between what you think of when I say socialism and what I mean is held in the word Democratic. It means that our taxes get used toward the betterment of society as decided though a democratic system as opposed to a an authoritarian regime or party. I am anti-communism.

What conservative group? This is an agnostic site. It has no predetermined political affiliations.

If it weren’t for the NRA we would have lost our rights to own firearms long ago, especially self defence weapons as most liberals don’t believe in the right of the people to possess firearms for self defence. @NFAguy53

It seems ludricous that the government would need an amendment for allowing them the right to bear arms so the only valid conclusion is that it should be applied to the ordinary citizen. @Duchessa

@Trajan61 You don't get it. The question here concerns a comma. No one wants to take your guns away from you, but there is no reason to have a 30 round magazine or a semi-automatic rifle for hunting.

As I said, I used to sell firearms and have sold a fair number of AR-15s in the process. I also lived three miles from Columbine in 1999 so I understand the need for universal background checks, limitations on purchases of military grade weapons and the need for a reasonable waiting period between purchasing and acquiring a firearm. I have refused to sell handguns to those who indicated that they need to have the firearm "today."

The courts have said that the Second Amendment is not absolute, that there are limitations as there are with all ten articles of the Bill of Rights. Your premise that "most liberal" don't want you to own a firearm is not based on any polling I have seen (and I have been reporting on this subject for the past 14 years for our local newspaper). It is mostly propaganda from the NRA to justify their radical position that firearms should be made available to all citizens regardless of background or mental stability.

Many liberals want common sense gun laws. Many NRA members agree with the implementation of universal background checks, stricter enforcement of NICS, FBI and ATF background acquisitions and reporting of domestic abuse and mental illness backgrounds.

What about the attempt by the liberals to circumvent the people by liberal judicial appointee’s who uphold laws by cities prohibiting people from having a gun in their own home or laws prohibiting law abiding citizens from carrying a loaded firearm? Seems to me if you can’t have a gun in your own home that should be considered total confiscation. I think your the one who doesn’t get it! @ Lancer, @NFAguy53, @Yakoi

@Yakoi: I think you have a great opinion!