Do you think this pandemic is psychologically manipulating? Do you find yourself feeling manipulated or manipulative as a result of it?
Examples of psychological manipulation during this pandemic that I've observed from many people: panic buying, EXCESSIVELY telling people what they should do --- work from home you'll get us all sick. Don't go outside? Wash your hands, don't touch this, that... to the point of becoming angry, controlling, manic if someone tells them to calm down.
Do you think a lot of people are treading on Draconian or fascist or authoritarian behaviour... imposing tyranny?
Do you ever wonder if we are all being psychologically manipulated by our world leaders?
I think for the most part people that panic shop are over reacting, they're is generally something for all. The idea that oh if the virus is around a store and I'm in it I'm gonna get it , wrong. Its possible, it's also possible you wont. And how your system reacts to it is also the crap shoot. The real problem I have with all this is buisnesses will have to re open at some point and how will people treat each other after things calm down
I don't think it's manipulative... Especially since different people are saying different things... Ex. Trump verses everyone else... We all make choices.. I choose self isolating... Better safe than sorry...
the hype is way more of a problem than the problem, that's for sure. when I see two policemen in the same car right next to each other with no masks it makes me wonder. when I don't hear of a single person who is rich or in power dying from something with no vaccine I'm fairly sure there's as usual some real bullshit going on.
George Carlin was very good at calling out bullshit. Yes, there's bullshit in the world, but because that's true it doesn't mean it's the case with this virus.
However, he was also a very smart guy who, if he were here, would see the many thousands of people who are dying from this global pandemic during this unprecedented time. He often poked fun at conspiracy theorists and their lazy thinking.
You also don't know how the story of these policemen without masks will end. I've also met some pretty stupid cops and Carlin talks about them too!
Where is the bullshit here? Are these bodies piled in trucks just a joke?
It's not often one can say "5 people I knew died last week" with the horrific realization that next week that number might go up to 10. That's me.
Seriously Leigh, you're better than this.
I agree with you @LeighShelton
@Athena I got you really but I still think I'm generally right xx ive lost a lot more people to cancer and why are no celebs etc dying? question everything
@SleeplessInTexas thank you x
@Athena its very real and written on the back of a dettol bottle to prove it but are you being told the truth about it?
You agree with him? Oh so it wasn't just a question then..
Some people really do wear their lack of critical thinking on their sleeve.
@SleeplessInTexas, @LeighShelton
Maybe because they don't listen to conspiracy theories and stay the fuck home?
Or, maybe because the death rate is still 1% so the chances of one of them dying if they get it is STILL 1%.
And people who aren't celebrities get it and survive, so it works both ways..
And maybe celebrities will die at some point but that would be sad too.
@Athena I question everything and overthink. I just think there's a lot more to this.
This is Dr. Eric Berg talking about the nature of a virus and how to stay healthy.
Not sure how this ties into the conspiracy of the government trying to simply control people. Explain por favor?
What is your point?
Some people don't have strong immune systems and need to be vaccinated. Weren't you vaccinated for polio and other once prevalent diseases at some point? I think we all were.
@Athena I said I think the hype is way worse than the problem especially as the problem is inescapable as the good doctor explains. as it goes I was one of the few who didn't have those shots that most people had. there isn't a vaccine. I carry herpes which I caught from my father genetically and if id had children they would have it as its the nature of a virus.
@ToolGuy so do you know everything then? I don't, I'm just reading between the lines.
You can't manipulate a virus. There have been too many fatalities and too much actual disruption reported by too many varied sources to think that this is a conspiracy to manipulate us.
Next thing you know, the government will make it mandatory to be chipped and get a vaccine.
Will you be okay with that if it came down to it?
A friend thinks this virus was genetically created to control the world from what's to come. The government created it to bring about population control, according to him.
One said that this is world government's way to collect DNA from people and another said something else.
A bunch of conspiracy theories...
Who knows? Or does someone know? Hmmm...
@SleeplessInTexas
(Rhetorical question) Who is your friend?
(NOT Rhetorical) What do they do for a living?
Are they a virologist?
Does your friend know that there is no controlling any bacteria or virus?
It´s not like a trained hound or bear that can be send out after this, but ignore that, a virus or bacteria designed to do harm will do harm indiscriminately. Which is why the international community banned such research.
This has been a favorite trope of many science fiction books, who, correctly, foretell the doom of all of us should someone decide to engineer a virus for some short term gain. There simply is no way to control a virus from biting the hand that created it.
As far as being chipped is concerned, once it´s been tested and is known to be reasonably safe, sure.
If you are waxing anti Vaxxer, go away. I have been vaccinated for everything under the sun, and then some, since before I could walk. True for my whole family (anyone associated with my fathers mother). Not one contraindication other than my sister being found to be allergic to chicken. Certain vaccines that grow their cultures in chickens eggs, she can´t use, but there are alternatives.
You are absolutely right, baseless conspiracy theories. Oh, don´t get me wrong, someone like SCROTUS or Kim Jon might well ponder such a thing, but it´s impossible to control the outcome. Sadly, I do believe SCROTUS is dense enough to think he could... or rather he would never listen to the experts warning him! He would listen to the conspiracy theorists telling him to DO exactly that (they, of course, would say that they were warning him about why this is a bad idea, but couching it in language he wouldn't´t be able to parse).
Notice how unpopular your statements are?
Did you take your meds today?
That's "just a simple question" because you like to advertise that you're on them and what you're stating here is crazy and irresponsible.
@Athena
There is no crime in being bamboozled by well knit together, but false, arguments, which is what conspiracy theories are. There IS, or should be shame, in continuing to be pulled in by them despite lots of evidence to the contrary.
There is definite shame in ad hominem attackes. Yes, I asked after her sources skill sets. I did not go after Sleepless for propagating same as, again, it's easy to get pulled in to their sophistry. Especially in a world with the likes of Faux Entertainment parading as news.
@Athena you're the one going on a tirade. Did YOU take YOUR meds?
I hope you're okay. REALLY!
No. Not me. Our mayor has been far more bold with drastic safety measures, and he is well respected and beloved for his firmness. We have much lower numbers than the other counties with a bit more lax rules during this time.
The way most people on my island feel is that we are showing our love for the people of our island, by following the rules, or our own good and others. Everyone is wearing masks, not necessarily out of faith in their protective properties, but more in solidarity with the effort to show aloha to everyone around us, and that we are all in this together and we want to protect each other. So, these measures are put in place out of love.
I enjoy having these common sense rules (mandatory quarantine of visitors, enforced social distancing on the beaches, etc.) because it makes me feel safer.
The only manipulation going on is that of the conspiracy theory and/or bullshit about how these extreme measures are not necessary.
It is supremely ignorant and irresponsible to suggest for a moment that these measures are excessive.
Over 100 doctors are dead and hospital workers are continuing to die, among the many cases we hear about. Chinese researchers have now found a 2nd strain of the virus due to COVID-19 mutation and it's taken hold in places like Italy, where there is a high concentration of numbers, and more recently in the US.
Why? Because the lack of containment has allowed the virus to thrive long enough to mutate.
The last thing we need is a suggestion that this is all just fear mongering.
If you think so, go work in the front lines!!
Queen
It was simply a question. Thank you for your response.
Do you ever pay attention to the world leaders when they tell you to practice social distancing, but they are all standing close to each other during their conferences?
@SleeplessInTexas their desire to be "famous" overwhelms their common sense (if they ever had any!)
Are you one of those imbecilic death-deniers that are making things So Much Worse?
It's only Trump who does that and he's a fucking idiot.
Oh yeah.. and those other sycophants in his party.
Based on your other comments here, it wasn't "just a question" but what you believe.
You must be a Trump supporter.
Harsh? I don't care. Your comments and ones like them makes things worse for everyone.
Tell me, did you go out and buy more guns when you heard about this pandemic?
You've stated clearly here in past that you're
"A proud gun owner."
What are you proud of exactly.. that you can shoot this virus "if" it actually exists?
Thinking People are scared, and the oblivious ones are a clear & present danger to all of us & our loved ones!
In this instance, perhaps we're being excessively told how to function during the pandemic because so many are failing to perform the basic methods suggested for dealing with it. In some ways, authoritarian countries are achieving better results because the citizenry usually does what they're told, and are accustomed to deferring to the common good. As for other instances, I don't know.
I don't think we are being manipulated. Human reactions to stress and anxiety have always involved things like panic, being overly controlling or overly passive, etc... it is what it is, the idea that someone is "running things" or "doing this to us in purpose" is just as misbased as ascribing human behavior to some cosmic force