Ummm, coroners report,the first quickie one, contradicted by the second later one and an independent one. Are you volunteering to have someone kneel on you for almost 9 minutes?

@TheMiddleWay, you used the word "purport". Did you write this yourself?

I gather you'll say this was prejudicial, or you would like to wait for further reports. [abcnews.go.com]

Well it's obvious you've never read "How to Win Friends and Influence People". Calling people people feeble minded because they do not agree with you is very offensive.

I never saw this as a post about defending the cops. I read this and was stuck by how much it ignored the excessive force (which evidence does show is used far more frequently against a certain segment of the population than).
5 minutes is a very long time, even if Mr. Floyd had not died that video would have sparked an up roar. Seems like the post was designed to create a knee jerk reaction but then calling anyone who reacts in a way you don't want them to feeble minded is interesting.
This episode with America still trying (or not) to come to grips with racial injustice, unequal application of the law, etc. can not be relegated to just wanting to live an evidence-based life. IMHO

I don’t have to be a medical expert to look at the existing evidence, and that evidence is plain, obvious, and plentiful.

Those with medical training do see that a man was subdued by another man placing his knee on his neck, applying pressure to his carotid artery until he was non responsive, and then kept the pressure applied. Those with medical training know what happens when you prevent oxygenated blood from getting to the brain and that a move like that, when being used for appropriate self defense or to simply subdue a man until a threat passes, dictates release of the pressure as soon as the desired effect is obtained, or death is a significant risk. I am perfectly content to await a coroner's report before purporting any KNOWN cause of death, because you are absolutely right and I do prefer to live by evidence, but I contend that there are some with enough training and knowledge to recognize from nothing more than the video evidence that the RISK for the knee to the neck to be potentially related to the cause of death clearly exists. I can observe this and at the same time know that until there is a complete coroner's assessment, we cannot know what other physical factors may have played a role.

Whenever a perp dies in custody, it's usually suspect. The department does an internal investigation and usually covers it up. Outside investigation here, they won't cover this one up. The excessive force at least contributed to this man's death. The fact that he may have had an underlying health problem does not exonerate these officers. Don't accuse me of being feeble minded or having a mental weakness. These cops are going to be made an example of. Whether you think it's fair or not. The mayor, the riots, it's etched in stone. What's left of Minneapolis will be burned to the ground otherwise. .