@altschmerz Oh thanks for the info about the site actually was very helpful appreciate it And Yh I kinda assumed you all were once Christian tbh as I spent the first maybe 30 minutes on the site just scrolling through the comments and just reading people’s opinions (and yes some were very harsh) but I understand tbh, none of this is easy and my heart goes out to all of you for seeking the truth cause their are times when even I loose faith and I question everything and whenever I do all roads lead back home, you see a lot of what I find is a lot of people who leave Christianity fall into 1 of 3 categories or all of the above; negative expearience with ‘so called Christians’ or ‘the church’ who condemn individuals any chance they get, are rude, generic giving answers to serious questions that don’t even come from the spirit of god or just downright show lack of regard for those battling the world in their own arrogance and ignorance, god says to them “if you love me you will follow my commandments” and they break them in these very acts and so I humbly say they cannot be true followers of Christ if they in their heart see righteousness in their actions and i apologise on their behalf if you have in any way experienced this. 2. Seing all the suffering in the world, in themselves and/or in those they love and question why god ‘allows’ it to happen and in their pain they are driven from god or they lack understanding of scripture which causes them to question it (naturally) and without those fit to answer present they begin to occupy a different trail of thought based on what they know, an lemme get off my horse cause I’m no different, I’ve never once renounced god but I have certainly lost faith and it hurts at my lowest I legitimately said “god, whoever you are, if you exist, please reveal yourself to me”, now I’m fortunate enough to have grown up in a family who trained me up in the word and are very spiritual and close to god, we pride ourself on humility and knowing that we don’t have all the answers and so in this we make room for god who can supply all the answers, both my parents were very supportive of me and told at one point out of no where sat me and my brothers down and straight up said “guys we just wanted to check where you were with god, do you have any other interests or have felt led in another direction, ‘ no wrong answers’ just be honest” you see they wanted to be sure they weren’t forcing anything on us because that is the exact same way god is in giving us free will to make our own choices, but none of us left the faith and in staying within god I’ve gained greater understanding of his nature, how he thinks, the justice behind his actions and the reasoning behind his inaction, long story short (which I can go into further detail and will do if you are interested but as of now I don’t wanna drone on too long) the closer you are to god the greater your understanding of his nature you will become? From his every action right down to creation itself and how the spiritual and the physical meet with one another, and you draw nearer to god by not only ‘reading’ but ‘meditating’ on and most importantly ‘living’ his word. And just to finish off I am in no way gonna enforce anything in any of you guys, cause I get it, I really do, and it hurts to see it it truly does, cause I know what it’s like to feel lost or uncertain in the way you described, but if nothing else I will pray for you guys; not even anything major to start with, but simply that you find ‘the truth’. Again feel free to message me back with anything, I’m not god almighty but id like to think I’m a conduit to his word on my best day

I’m ok not having all of the answers. If your bible
is your moral code, you have not read it.

@altschmerz Nah I’m here to gain a better understanding and even offer guidance if it’s ever wanted, my apologies, maybe I’ve been doing too much talking and not enough listening, I’ll take that into account for next time.
Also the 3rd category was “lacking in understanding of scripture which causes them to question it (naturally) and without those fit to answer present they begin to occupy a different trail of thought based on what they know“ and I’ll add as a bonus the fact that many have had encounters with ‘Christians’ and not actually god ‘himself’

@Wildgreens How so? (Serious question)

@Redeemed ha surely bc "Yah condones slavery, Yah demands slaughter and genocide, Yah suggests that women are chattel," all the goto ignorances of a literal reader imo

@altschmerz my bad, new here lol, and thanks appreciate it, I’ll take it into account

@altschmerz ah well you say "contradicts" but i think most/all of them have solutions, post any you think are unsolvable if you like. The outright lies though, these im finding more surprising, maybe bc i just found that site

@altschmerz

You think?

Or you wish because your identity is tied to that religion?

@altschmerz

Whaaaat? Link me. I must see. The archeologists ive seen have said that people who say their race is jewish, are actually just Syrians or Egyptians.

There is no evidence this region known as the original israel actually existed. Even scientists who identify as jewish have said this.

@altschmerz

No evidence. In fact, tons of evidence to the contrary.

@altschmerz

It's pretty clear that people called jews were never slaves in Egypt. The exodus, like the rest of the stories in the bible, are a mix of myth and legend.

Egypt during that time and for centuries before were ruled by pharaoh Ramses II. It is well documented that during that time Egypt stretched from current day Egypt to current day Turkey. So if the exodus or any stories in the talmud or bible regarding the original israel were true, that means millions of jews would have fled slavery in Egypt to a region that was also still Egypt. All while not leaving a single trace of their existence. Probability factor less than 1%.

@altschmerz

Thank you for sharing. I typically love reading and watching this type of content. I'm a bit too busy to watch 1 5 hours, but based on your commentary above it sounds like israel of the gaps.

I'm going to eventually try to watch it, but I've been following this stuff for decades.

Ramesses II scribes were highly detailed and all of the regions he conquered were catalogued meticulously. No mention of these people, or any mention of a region called israel. The region currently known as israel is clearly within the regions conquered, catalogued and scribed. Which is why most prudent archaeologists and historians believe that people who call themselves jews are either Egyptians or Syrians.