Turek alone is reason enough to go atheist. Another would be Greg Koukl. I'll have to look up Geisler just to see how cringey he is.

I don't see how its trolling to ask about why people have the world view that they do. It's curiosity and a willingness to learn and understand others.

Aren't we here to communicate and exchange ideas?

Sadly some troll in and some Atheists enjoy bashing them .... I don't think a single rapist priest has spewed their lies here but weekly if not daily news of arrest and imprisonment of rapist clergy thieving fraudulent clergy is posted here...... prEyer always fails believers talk to themselves and the delusions inside their skulls

There are a tiny few in here who list beliefs and merely hope for sex with Atheists not guilting any of us Atheists into a church wedding....this is an open dating site but believers can't fully function in our community due to their boring ass handicap called faith clouding critical thinking and science

Hello again. Have not seen you for a bit, hope you are still OK, I know things have not been good in your neck of the woods ?

@Fernapple I've been counting the days and hoping for a great change in this country.

@Pondartincbendog

Good answer

Non-believers do not have to disprove a god:

A god is not defined by reality or existence, believers make the assertion that it is, the god makes no assertion whether it exists or not, it is therefore the believer who must then prove the assertions they make.

All the non-believer has to do is mock them and have THEM prove their nonsense.

@word Sorry, I did not hear the clap of thunder and see the flash of lightening.

@Mcflewster You in a desert where there is never any rain storms?

Prove it

You are god? Impossible... God is a woman

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@Omnedon we have labeled ourselves as gods for longer than we have labeled ourselves as homo sapian or human.

There are different styles of "gods". Why do you [and most illogical atheist] sound as if there is only one style of God?

@Cutiebeauty god is not my name, that is correct.

@Omnedon for at least almost 2000 years we have labeled ourselves as gods, you are incorrect. The laws for the nation of Israel documented other wise.

John 10:34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law,(A) ‘I have said you are “gods”’[

Yes, Jesus style God was "invented " as biblical text explains Jesus was Angelic created being created by the old testiment people-gods speaking Jesus into existence as it is purported.

@Omnedon just as well as you call us "people " we can call ourselves gods.

@Omnedon Kit Carson and Daniel Boone, rather modern"people " accepted to be gods. As well as the powerful banking industry controlling "people".

@Omnedon ...and where is the "discreditedation" for biblical text?

@Omnedon Michael Jordon, basketball god. Have you seen him fly thru the air? Can a FAT human dunk like mike? I don't think so.

@Omnedon Yes, that is what a basketball God is. Michael Jordon gives a standard for a basketball God. Yes, we invented basketball. Yes, Mike is great at basketball. This does not mean that Michael Jordon basketball God must have omnipresent capabilities and be physically everywhere at every point for infinity in all directions.

@Omnedon human 12th to 15th century origin. Homo sapian 1802 not as old.

Gods, biblical text much older, do your own research. "People" being called gods is much older than human or homo sapien.

human (adj.)
mid-15c., humain, humaigne, "human," from Old French humain, umain (adj.) "of or belonging to man" (12c.)

Homo sapiens (n.)
the genus of human beings, 1802, in William Turton's translation of Linnæus, coined in Modern Latin from Latin homo "man" (technically "male human," but in logical and scholastic writing "human being;" see homunculus) + sapiens, present participle of sapere "be wise" (see sapient).

@Omnedon another style of god is the Christian. They refer to themselves as a "Child of God" even in modern times.

The butterfly analogy is that just as a butterfly has a Caterpillar stage, you see a Christian in a "child" stage of being a God. Any Christian by labeling them selves as a Christian with the education that they are a "child" of god is then claiming to be a god simply by claiming to be a Christian.

@Omnedon I do not claim to be Christian any more, but that is how stupid atheist looks when they are trying to tell a Christian of all people, "I lack belief that you exist" and the "God child" is standing right in front of the illogical atheist.

@Omnedon Belief means accept as true. Your lacking to accept as true does not change the fact I exist and I am labeled as a God, A father(I have my part in creating 2 children), I am a son a long with other labels. I really do exist.

@Omnedon what ever you define as God, that you do not see evidence for from me, is not the style of god that I am. It is like you recognize Michael Jordon basketball God, but you want evidence for him to be pasta in the sky with meatballs. Michael Jordon and myself are not pasta in the sky with meatballs and we are not saying we are pasta in the sky with meatballs but this is the evidence you ard asking for. So, no, I am not here to give you evidence as if I am pasta in the sky with meatballs.

@Omnedon Thank you for a good example to use showing a statement of being in denial when faced with the fact of the facts that are factually presented. "This has become circular. You've made a claim but provide no evidence. You are not a god, but rather a person. Good luck to you."

@Omnedon you are now making an illogical statement saying I stated no fact but made a confident statement of fact.

as·ser·tion
/əˈsərSH(ə)n/
noun
a confident and forceful statement of fact ...

@Omnedon I pull straws you say, but you make a strawman fallacy.

You make a strawman God and say I am not your strawman God.

@Omnedon yes I understand you, you do not follow with understanding logic to make a conclusion properly.

@Omnedon I can make an equivocation myself. Illogical atheists are Non sequiturs, they do not follow logos(logic)god.

John 1:1 in the beginning was the logos, the logos was with God and was God. John 1:14 ... logos become flesh.

By some illogical reason illogical atheist become flesh, (a person.) Atheist makes for an illogical god.

@Omnedon Logos is thought, word, reason capabilities, cognition in the flesh. Be the word. Be the reason for your thinking. Think, cognition, logos freely my illogical atheist friend, think freely!

@Omnedon
Thanks for your very thoughtful response.