Pissed on a newbie you are triple his age.... blame radio tv cult liar DENNIS PRAGEr.... thankyou @AmibolaAina for alerting us to our enemies....some of whom are sour puss in our midst

To be fair, none of us know what anyone means by 'agnostic' OR 'atheist' without asking questions.

@JeffMurray while that is true, generally, with the occasional exception, atheists fall into a recognisable spectrum of positions, on religion, and on science and related. There are exceptions, but generally I find this to be the case. Agnostics? Hmm not so much.

@David1955 Do atheists make an assertive claim there is no god or do they simply lack a belief in any god?

@JeffMurray Depends, the two types of atheist are usually called, soft and hard atheists. Though soft atheists could also be defined as being on the agnostic spectrum.

Any word, ter or label can be co-opted.
But when discussing concepts and ideas we need to have a clear definition, or at least work with the original definition. Otherwise in any discussion we will be stuck in discussing the terms and not the discussion itself.
Mis-using labels is common, that are even people that call themselves atheists just because they are not christians, or even because they are not part of an organized christian church...
If you start looking at how people use the term instead of its definition, any discussion will stop on the swamp of semantics...

@Fernapple @Pedrohbds
You explaining that is precisely my point. I know that, but I was asking the question simply to get him to start to explain proving my point that 'atheist' needs to be expounded on for the reader/listener to really know what you mean by it just like 'agnostic'. Hell, most definitions you look up for 'atheist' include both of those things.

@JeffMurray there are a wide variety of beliefs and actions within the non- theist community. Just like there is a wide variety within the theist community. Not sure what’s the point of name nuances? Why does it matter?

@JeffMurray Yes but David has been around a bit, you have to assume he has already been there many times.

@Fernapple True. I was just making an observation that not knowing what they mean is not limited to agnosticism.