Doubt it. Despite the fire, they had a comfortable life, with no long term worries. She was driving whilst her husband slept, and probably had a "micro-sleep".

Her husband was also in the car. He and one child survived.

@Petter Very tragic for them.

I'll buy half a dozen. Where do I pay?

Pissed on the altar wine again.

For which, of course, we do not need religion.

@Petter
Well, we’re not all alike. I know I can’t judge what other people need based on what I need. A lot of people seem to not know how to function without religion.

@skado The idea of needing religion to function as a normal person vexes me greatly.

@anglophone
It’s a vexing problem, but one we’re not likely to escape. Biologically speaking, there is no normal; only what is. When we grew big brains and started tinkering with our environment we set up a conflict between our evolved nature and our artificial environment. We will always need to bridge that gap with some kind of patch. The gap is growing, and the patch is becoming obsolete. It’s gonna be interesting.

@anglophone i think to have politics, you gotta have religion, too? Maybe not quite right, but they do seem to be closely related. I guess maybe some example, France maybe? Might be an exception...but why do I already know that that mostly secular country is stuffed full of Catholics in their Congress, just like US?

Anyway, funny to me that the Bible condemns religion, too!

@bbyrd009 Try Sweden: [sweden.se] . Even though what it says in that article about Australia, Australia's Prime Minister is a raging religious nutcase.

That the Buy Bull condemns condemns religion strikes me as hilarious. Thanks for the tip.

@anglophone yeh, strikes most believers that way i guess? The highest praise is reserved for the pagan and the atheist though, believe it or not

55% of swedes id with the church there, so...dunno about their presence in their politics, but i can prolly guess!