Following discussion elsewhere I have learnt of an American political party hitherto not known to myself. It is the Libertarian Party. Reading their founding policy has left me with a number of opinions. The primary being that it must be comprised of psychopathic narcissists in order to fulfil their goals.
I photographed the opening of the libertarian web page for all to see. [lp.org]
It states that:"Libertarians strongly oppose any government interference in your personal, family, and business decisions" - so long as you do not harm one another.
There are 2 points immediately obvious -
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Without government control regulating people there is anarchy. How can you have family without rules on how they are formed and conducted? Until recently there was no law against rape in marriage & in many parts of the world there still isn't.
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Human beings are incapable of individually self regulating because they are inherently narcissistic & hubristic.
Example: The heroin dealer doesn't sell heroin to enable others to have a jolly beneficial time but to make profit only for himself. Whilst doing so he will enjoy the benefit of the state provided street corner & its lighting at night whilst selling his wares without contributing to the cost of constructing & maintenance of that street corner if he can.
As the libertarians seemingly don't care of others having differing opinions from their own they will undoubtedly claim that this is harming them. Without governing laws, checks & controls libertarians will do as they desire to the detriment of all but themselves.
Having done so they will then defend their destructive selfish action with lies, untruths, diversions & more unwholesome stupid activity. Often employing lawyers to do so.
Now let's see who agrees with me and who agrees with you. Please feel free to enhance my learning & understanding in this matter.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Again you admit you don't know what you are talking about. You don't even know what political parties there are in the U.S.
By the way, the preferred spelling is "learned", as @pgl4vt pointed out.
Alienbeing
Level 8
Aug 12, 2022
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@FrayedBear Irrespective of what grammarly may say "learned" is the preferred spelling in the US. As such nothing else matters.
@Alienbeing and the rest of the english speaking world couldn't give a stuff about your "preference".
@FrayedBear I doubt it, but f so, why would we care?
@Alienbeing you & @pgl4vt obviously do. In this instance I couldn't give an "f" as you unambiguously understood what I wrote. Your frequent spelling errors caused through your arrogant laziness frequently prevents comprehension.
@FrayedBear No, nothing either of us said indicates we care. It does indicate we like pointing out your errors.
Rant on.
I was a libertarian until the pandemic hit and I learned (not "learnt" ) that they are the most selfish group of people in existence. I am ashamed to say that I have voted libertarian now. NEVER AGAIN.
pgl4vt
Level 6
Aug 8, 2022
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Not selfish, rather we deal with reality.
@Alienbeing Reality in that your rights are greater than others health.
@pgl4vt Not at all. In fact I am in favor of Universal Medicare for all.
@FrayedBear In the US "learned" is the preferred spelling. Accordigly it is irrelevant what grammarly may think.
@Alienbeing how often do I have to tell you that you are a very small part of the english speaking world & your hubris is ignored.
@FrayedBear Actually we are not a "very small part" but even if we were, we are the most important part, and that is all that matters.
@Alienbeing important only in your own opinion, ego & hubris.
@FrayedBear No, to Americans, which are the only part of the English speaking population that matters.
Castlepaloma
Level 8
July 30, 2022
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[bleedingheartlibertarians.com]
My opinions to the 10 questions
1.nonsense 2.Any centroism is very unhealthy and unhappy for independence and individualism. 3.Ron Paul is an honest libertarian, I stand by him. 4. Wouldn't join a club, where everyone was just like me. 5 The life span of the world has doubled since mid 1800s, not a fair or evidence base comparison 6.Anarchist and libertarian are organizations of the family units, dehumanizing women is nonsense. 7. Government Gods , bankers and corporations are the ultimate scum of the earth. Nothing wrong in making lots of money in free trade, just don't harm anyone. It is total dom-in nation is the greatest abuse for humanity. 9. The overly super wealthy corporationism, who are stealing away our money and healthy natural environment. 10. Nothing wrong with capitalism, as free trade. Alternative and natural products have been dealt with by the wealthy, as being mostly pressed to be illegal.
How can you judge a group of political people, who have not been in power yet. We can judge the recently inpower political party. How are they working out , so far?
Castlepaloma
Level 8
July 30, 2022
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Interesting discussion re the concept of libertarianism.
I agree with some of the concepts of this philosophy. And was somewhat surprised that by some metrics my home country New Zealand/Aotearoa is ranked as the top libertarian nation in the world.
Here’s the link:
My neighbour across the ditch frayedbear will probably be spluttering gobs of the golden amber in his tinny to discover that Australia is fifth on the list.
Interestingly, the USA is ranked fifteenth! 
Can I add that many wealthy so called libertarian Americans own homes in New Zealand. The guy who set up PayPal, Peter Thiel comes to mind. Why is that, I wonder?
We never talk about the concept of Libertarianism in NZ. Maybe that’s a cultural thing.
Just a reminder. Our borders are finally open again to non NZ citizens after more than two years. And we’re welcoming visitors, no matter what their beliefs are, back to Aotearoa. Hope you can make it.
True libertarians would have totally open borders in the area of land under this regime, right? And anyone would be free to live there. Well, that’s my understanding anyway. Interested to have your opinion on that one.
Zealandia
Level 8
July 30, 2022
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FearlessFly
Level 9
July 29, 2022
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libertarians think their policies will work but the are not sustainable. No political philosophy that I know of is sustainable without changing their philosophy as it develops.
dalefvictor
Level 8
July 29, 2022
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If you look up politician in the dictionary
"psychopathic narcissists"
Is the first definition
LenHazell53
Level 9
July 29, 2022
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Thanks Len. I wasn't aware of that. Not all political party members however become parliamentarians.
Which dictionary did you use? [duckduckgo.com]
Your reply reminds me of Australia 's only female PM accused of being a liar. At the time of her denial & now I continue to state that lying is a prerequisite of any politician.
How do you know, if a politician is lying?
A. When he opens his mouth.
Buttercup
Level 8
July 29, 2022
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There may not be the letters I in team.
There is an I for individualism, independence and immune.
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