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Is there such a thing as "toxic masculinity"?

... and if Yes: what is it and what would "healthy masculinity" look like?

Thibaud70 7 Mar 12
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I never see the word "masculinity" used without being preceded by "toxic". Contemporary society believes there is no other kind of masculinity.

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There is both a social component (aggression, misogeny, etc) AND personal component, according to most definitions, which requires males to repress their emotions and to be exclusively self reliant.

I hope that both my XX and XY genotypic children get to embrace their HUMANITY, while having regard for others.

Zster Level 8 Mar 12, 2023
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Be a PERSON first, treat others as People first, forget all that 'should' Crap you were taught.

You mean like. I saw a coat, ideal for riding my bike in, the other day. It is a ladies coat, buttons up the wrong way. Is that going to worry me ? Nah.

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I agree with the comments below, but I will add that, just like almost everything else these days, it seems like there may be a bit of over-correction on this. I've been accused of mansplaining when it was simply just a case of explaining something that was being misunderstood. The other situation has also happened where a female doctor who can't get enough of calling out mansplaining (which to be fair, she has probably encountered a lot of discrimination) doctorsplained something to me that as a veteran nurse of almost 20 years was a very elementary task. The sex/gender of the person giving and receiving the X-plaining is largely irrelevant. Either you're being a rude asshole or you're not, so to label it as a sex/gender thing is silly in my opinion.

Well, 'mansplaining' is a minor offense, IMHO. I wonder if any sane, reasonable person would consider this 'toxic masculinity' ? What I've in mind is gang violence, rape culture, 'honor killings' etc...

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Yes. My future wife experienced toxic masculinity at the hands of her boyfriend of the time.

Healthy masculinity looks like having a supreme regard for the needs, fears and mistakes of the partner.

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Based on the simple fact that almost anything can be toxic in excess, or in the wrong circumstances.

Of course.

Though I suspect, a lot of so called masculinity, especially the toxic sort, is not masculinity at all, but merely immaturity trying to pose as masculinity. Healthy masculinity therefore would be the opposite of that, and would not show the self centered habits and narcissism, which you associate with youth.

yes, that, what he said.

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