@KKGator Despite the religious components - the experience and lessons learned can be good for everyone involved. It teaches the kids the value of working as a team, serving their communities and a ton of necessary life skills. I didn't become a non-theist until long after the scouts and I continue to hold onto some of the valuable lessons I learned - most of which had nothing to do with religion but basic common sense.

@SLBushway Did you miss the first sentence of my response?

@SKETCHYZOMBIE I suppose I did.

At 16-17...?

@IntegralOmega They have Scouts over the age of ten? Dang.

Um... not for me... not sure t hat is a good thing but.. I WAS interested at a young age. Yes, I would've said "cooties" when talking to an adult but...

Tell the truth, at what age did you first consider the likes of playing doctor?

NOW, having said that I will ask another question: at what age would it have been a serious concern that you'd've risked full on sex?

Ie: it's one thing to 'play doctor' with another young person and maybe get naked and learn about body parts. It's another to put boy and girl together and... yet another to risk getting pregnant.

Oh, and for the record, the youngest known successful pregnancy? 5.. Yeah, 5 years old... she never did say who the father was, her son, from that pregnancy committed suicide (if I recall correctly) at the age of 30, give or take. Wasn't the result we could hope for.l Meaning that she, and her son, were shamed for what happened the rest of their lives... which should not have happened.

Sorry... I drink and I know things.

@Gnarloc Wow.....what an awful story.

@memorylikeasieve yes, iirc you become boy scout about 12 or so (everything below is cubscout and webelo) and stops when you turn 18. Most people don't get eagle scout until 16-17.

@IntegralOmega huh. I did not know that. I never knew anyone in Scouts of any kind older than about ten or so. ?

@memorylikeasieve Hmmm well I can tell you all of us in boyscouts we're horny idiots lol

I love the idea of merging the two!

Now do the same but with an ice cube

@Integral It would have to be very clear ice and you melt it into a convex shape. My best guess.

The mormans are cutting ties with the bsa and having their own scouting program! I know! That's so awesome!

I've obviously never been a girl scout, but my son and daughter both started in scouting. My son become an Eagle Scout, and my daughter quit girl scouts in frustration.

@JimG Frustration over what?

This guys got ideas. I vote for this plan.

Yeah. those twenty dollar tins of stale popcorn they peddle are not good.

The bsa has made that decision, they weren't told to.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE Well they just changed the name.

But most chapters quietly changed a couple years ago as far as coed.

Kinda of been involved with prodding them into modern thinking for a couple decades.

Boys are not equal to each other, but that does not seem to have been a problem for the Boy Scouts. As to your last sentence, I agree that the psychology of boys and girls is different, but the other differences that you claim are all the result of socialization or, more and more, merely the assumptions of those who hold these views.

So lets disolve the wnba.... no reason to have it accorrding your logic, lets see how many wnba member can make a nba roster.

Yes, the girl scouts should be for both, too.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE Not yet, but I could easily see that happening within a decade.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE I was replying to your comment about it being a merger.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE You seem to know a lot about Scouts' organizations. Just wondering if you are a troop leader, parent of a scout, or employed by any scout organization.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE Many government agencies refused to subsidize the BS because of their policies. One city park I volunteered for did just that. However, they did subsidize a 3 week program for the Girl Scouts. Again, why should we mess up girls minds by putting them with the BS? Let the Girl Scouts vet what boys they will allow to join them. Think about this: it is not masculine for a boy to join a girls group but it's okay for a girl to join a boys group (not)!
@Cheri

@BlueWave There seems to be some confusion here but I will reply anyway. I was very active in the Weblos, Boy Scouts and Explorer Scouts until I was too old. My step-son got his Eagle but turned it in to protest their policy on gays. I and his mother was proud. I volunteered with a city park in Seattle for 8 years and this issue came up frequently.

@jjhagen Good they should be. Of course it would not be masculine for a boy to join the Girl Scouts so it has to be the other way around.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE And they are disassociating themselves from the Mormon church. All steps in the right direction. The big problem is that all this was caused by a lack of finances and that still needs to be addressed.

@SKETCHYZOMBIE It's too bad because I loved it. I spent many fun days camping and doing outdoor things (I never made it past 2nd class because it was about the experiences not some goal. When I moved up to Explorers I was given 5 merit badges because the leader knew I had earned them.

@JackPedigo the masculinity or femininity is something that shouldn't even matter. Masculine men and feminine females all work together in society. The sooner they learn to work together in ALL tasks, the better off we will be as a society.

@Cheri But I think it does matter in our society.

@JackPedigo yes, at the expense of women.

@Cheri An maybe/hopefully that is changing. I think it is high time that males put themselves in females positions hence pushing the boys to join the girl scouts. Reminds me of some older cartoons with boys tree houses with sign saying "No girls allowed".

@JackPedigo I agree. I think boys could benefit just as much learning about and participating in traditional female roles as girls would from learning about and participating in traditional male roles. The more girls and boys share all aspects of work and recreation, the more they will understand and appreciate each other in ALL aspects.