@Bobby9 my point exactly?

@Bobby9 Yes

Existence always existed?

@Noor92 Even BEFORE...the big bang...there HAD to be SOMETHING to...BANG. SO THERE HAS NEVER been...NOTHINGNESS

@Bungaloebob
I presume you are a Beatles fan, yes?

@BirdMan1 LOL...WHAT makes you say that?

@NR92 YES!

@Bungaloebob Your "Bungaloeob is so like "Bungalow Bill," and the "Within you, without you" comment. Cool!

@BirdMan1 WOW...YEP...I've been into the BEATLES ever since i could remember.

So you are saying that nothingness does not exist? in other word you believe in infinity of time and existence

@Noor92 YES...I believe in the INFINITY of time and existence!!!

@Noor92 If you are talking about TOTAL nothingness, yes, it would appear that there is always existence if only quantum fields. As for time, now you have introduced a whole new variable that you never mentioned in the first place. Sneaky.

@Bungaloebob
That would fit into the newly revived idea of a "Big Bang-"Big crunch," infinitely repeated series of universes.

@BirdMan1 OKAY...but...I don't know about the BIG BANG BIG CRUNCH philosophy or the theory of...infinitely repeated series of universes. WHICH MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL...INFINITELY REPEATED UNIVERSES...WHAT'S THE SENSE IN THAT? RATHER than to REPEAT a universe...just have the one...unless it is an experiment in diversity giving the same circumstances to the same person with different results in each of the repeated universes. But then a person can work that out for themselves in their head also. So...again...WHAT is the sense in THAT?

@Bungaloebob No one said that there is/was sense in it, but what was an old, fairly discarded concept has found some new adherents, physicists who are trying to see whether, or not, they can find some evidence for it. Einstein believed that quantum physics, which he helped develop, made no sense, but it is a solid part of the Standard Model of physics, today.

@BirdMan1 A philosophy HAS to make sense...if it doesn't make any sense...then there is no reason to it. A THEORY doesn't have to make sense...but it has to be theoretically possible, or probable. The UNIVERSE doesn't make mistakes...every thing it does runs on a principle...cause, and effect.

@Bungaloebob Not that I happen to believe in infinitely repeated universes, because I don't, but how does it not make sense as a theoretical possibility? It certainly has made sense to a number of scientists.

@Heraclitus WELL...MAYBE...they're all smokin' the wrong shit!

@ Mitch07102
Physicists "know" that the nothingness/emptiness of space is not empty, but is constantly experiencing the spontaneous popping in, an popping out, of virtual particles. So, perhaps a literal nothingness, anywhere, is impossible.