Fact Check! Trump and Putin claim Ukraine started the war

Both Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin claim Ukraine started the war in Donbass. If both leaders are wrong, America needs to step up support and send troops on the ground because Europe is sure they are next.

When theory becomes practice, Trump’s declaration means Russia has been sanctioned for nothing. Russia isn’t the enemy of the United States. It means there is an information war that took over the entire information space and corrupted American foreign and domestic policy.

Or it means Donald Trump has subjugated American policy to serve Russian interests. Russia Gate was true. Adam Schiff should be given the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Donald Trump should be impeached again.

For too long, Americans, notably conservatives, have been standing on both sides of this fence when in fact, it’s either or. You can’t play the same story both ways. Not honestly.

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I'm going a different direction today with this post. I'll just let you read the article on your own being I've attempted to cover all the bases in the past. I'm just going to inject a few points here in regards to the investigative journalist, George Eliason, and my own history on it. Along with a couple other points.

I was covering this war basically ever since I first came to this community. Oct of 2017 having already been following it before hand. I started this group shortly after that. Some of my first post were on the Ukraine issue. In fact, the Maidan Revolution in regards to the lame investigations within Ukraine. Lame because by then the puppet government that had already been installed by Obama, Biden, and Nuland, didn't, and weren't, going to expose the full sense of the crimes that went down during the violence, or which that spread throughout the east and south. Those crimes also were manipulated within information control and agenda driven.

{I [George Eliason] moved to central west Ukraine in 2009. In 2012, I relocated to the Donbass region. I witnessed the atrocities that happen when a government does declare part of the population almost domestic terrorists and starts taking away their rights. I witnessed when a government declares part of a population terrorists and takes away their citizenship. Then uses heavy weapons and military force to break them.

This doesn’t happen in force-on-force action. To do this, you systematically target the population at schools, hospitals, maternity wards, churches, apartments, homes, shopping malls and high traffic areas. {Police and fire stations along with government institutions and critical infrastructure.}

In 2021 and 2022, I went to 4 out of 18 known at the time known mass graves the Ukrainians filled when they left an area. The worst was seeing the remains of small children. The first I saw dug up was 5 heads in a bag.

This is the outcome of 8 years of attacks on civilians who were declared illegal occupiers of their own homes. I have the physical proof of all of this. All the media has is a narrative based on what Ukraine is telling them.}

I'm a bit confused to the time line in regards to George's appearances to mass graves. I first learned about George Eliason from an RT documentary that he appeared in when he was at one of those mass graves that was being excavated by an organization. I may be wrong, but I'm fairly certain that documentary was released in a year before 2021. I'll never forget what he said in that doc. That what he was witnessing was straight out of what one would see from middle east terrorist in regards to beheadings and other styles of body mutilations. Whether that was his first mass grave out of the 4 or not, I don't know. I'd have to hunt down the doc again to have a better idea of the time line though. I've been following his work since. Have him on my facehack feed.

Eliason is obviously a conservative. Apparently a big believer in Trump. Talk about confusing! I've butted heads with him on his post on fachhack a number of times. And his followers there over Trump supporting post, for the most part. But the man knows the Ukraine issue inside out. He has a vast knowledge of the history in regards to the linage of nazism within Ukraine. The families, politicians, people, government institutions, and groups correlated to fascism within. I put him right up there close with Moss Robeson of the Bandera Lobby Blog.

Anyways. I'm posting this article because there has seemingly been a major change within the Ukraine story line over the past 2 or 3 days. Kiev has been conducting a major uptick in drone use, nearly 1000 drones in civilian attacks over this period, and apparently attempting to take out Putin as he was leaving Kursk after his first visit since they repelled Ukrainian troops from this Russian region in a helicopter. Trump furious because Russia retaliated by bombing a drone factory and other military targets. Which of course, western medias falsely claimed Russia targeted civilians. Which we never hear when Kiev attacks civilian targets. O wait! We do hear about it. But it's blamed on Russia. Apparently, the western satellite systems are as useless as their weapons when it comes to Russia. They apparently aren't able to recognize which direction the drones, missiles, and rockets are coming from. So, Ukraine just get a pass on all that shit?

The article is a time line of the Ukraine issue for anyone who hasn't and wants to get up to parr on it to a large degree. If you scroll down after this article, it goes into the recent attempt on Putin. In which in that article, it's actually the first time I've ever seen George question Trump's absurd statements! Where he knows who is actually targeting civilians. Trump left him without being able to give him a positive note with the absurd rant on his media platform. It would mean turning his back on all his previous reporting which is highly more factual than any western version.