For now... but conservative groups are already planning how to get an abortion case before the new supreme court once Kennedy’s replacement is confirmed.

Legal but in some places barely available. I believe one or 2 states have just one clinic left due to conservatives blocking funding, & passing other laws that put clinics out of business. Add a 24 hour waiting period to a 600 mile trip could make it impossible to end an unwanted pregnancy for someone with very little money.

Legal but in some places barely available. I believe one or 2 states have just one clinic left due to conservatives blocking funding, & passing other laws that put clinics out of business. Add a 24 hour waiting period to a 600 mile trip could make it impossible to end an unwanted pregnancy for someone with very little money.

The primary argument against abortion was never religion. The issue is where we define the start of a human being. Once you set that mark, human rights become an issue after it. The debate is about how soon/late into the pregnancy should that mark be. Most people are in the middle with few, but vocal extremists, putting it at the start and end.

@Katrik No, the issue has always been that men think they need to be in control of what women do with their bodies. Hateful conservatives care all about saving a "baby's" life only until it really is a baby, born with some expensive medical problem or into a family that can't afford to feed themselves? They don't give a damn about babies. They just hate the idea of women having sex because it's fun & they want to.

@Carin With an issue this divisive, a strawman only hurts the argument. No one in the pro-life camp has argued that, and putting words in their mouth doesn’t help the pro-choice argument. This is not a black and white issue with a clear cut right or wrong. We stand a better chance of convincing people if we drop the emotional rhetoric and stick to logical arguments using premises based on factual evidence.

@Katrik I used to believe that facts and statistics would work, but I quickly learned people really don't care about them

Yeah, his "right to choose" ends after he ejaculates. Think first!

Not entirely... Yes there are some people who are nuts, but the “right to life” argument isn’t necessarily invalid. Once you define something as human, it has human rights including the right to live. The issue then is at what point does the fetus become a human being? It’s not a black and white issue either, as thereis a lot of grey area in the middle.

@Katrik If the baby has a right to live, why are the conservatives cutting all the programs that provide food to low income babies, & insisting that we remain the only developed nation on the planet to not consider health care a human right.

I agree. It should be a the woman choice.

no not simplistic and legal and illegal is not an answer. it is or it isn't and it needs to stay Legal

Legal for rape victims and illegal for sluts? That is the usual dichotomy. Is it yours?

@LionMousePudding My thought would be legal during the first trimester and illegal with only rare exceptions during the third trimester. The other possible legal/illegal dichotomy is that different states would likely make different laws if our federal Supreme Court decides to honor the 10th amendment for a change.