In a discussion with a believer, I was asked, "where was my moral authority?" My response was to say "from within, my heart, my humanity." That seemed unsatisfactory because of mankinds sinful nature, but not so nearly as unsatisfactory as when I explained that sin was a feature of his faith, not of mans doings, except that man created the faith I supposed. That was kinda the end of our discussion. But left me wondering, is Sin just bad stuff folks do to each other or is that reserved for god infractions. I thought using the word sinner might be a bit more effective when pointing out the hypocrisies of pop-culture believers? Could the non-believer use the sin word or is it too disingenuous. Or is all that just a waste?
I would take reasoning as my authority. Yes, humanity should help to make good reasoning. I may not be always perfect but I would do my best.
I think the sin word only talks about an imaginary viewpoint. Yes, likely too disingenuous.
I would love to see "In reason we trust" replacing "In God we trust" as the slogan imprinted on currency money.
Sin, as defined in the original translations of the Bible, means "to miss the mark." The mark, in this case, is the standard of perfection established by God. Sin equals breaking the law and I would therefore show that Biblical morality is not up to today's secular standards of morality. I really like using the example of slavery. The Bible never, in either the New or Old Testament condemns slavery. It has all kinds of rules of how to treat your slaves such as if you beat them, make sure they at least live another day. Ex. 21: 20 In my reading of their holy book it contains very little moral or ethical good judgement. You might plant a seed of doubt or you may not, but evidence is on your side.
We face choices ever single day we are on this planet. What would your choices be if survival was on a primative level? I know, I think there is a reality TV show, no TV so no clue. We choose to be good or not. Man created religion and uses it to control, there are some really kind christians out there, from what's been in the media since trump choose to run and then be placed in the New American Daycare Center most of those 'christians' are not nice. I personally do not require a religious authority to tell me where my moral authority comes from. I don't think I was born with sin. In the end trying to convince a true believer is something of a waste.
Save your time next time and turn it around on them. Ask them if they adhere to all of the rules from the bible dictating what sins are? When they finally admit that they don't think wearing clothes of mixed fabrics or eating shellfish or being gay etc. is not a sin, point out that their ability to pick and choose which parts of the bible they adhere to also mean that their moral compass comes from within, not from the book, just like yours.
Openly defy the existence of sin. It is a pattern deliberately reinforced by those who are weak and fearful, as a weapon against those who are strong.
Ok I googled sin and it is used two ways:
Sin-noun-an immoral act considered to be a transgression vs. divine law
sin-verb-commit a sin, commit an offense, commit a crime, break the law, misbehave, go astray.
Seems you could use it as a verb?
A tip for reading and understanding the bible. Sin and Evil share the same two meanings:
The second one can be tricky. It can be for raping or not raping, murdering or not murdering, stealing from those you have murdered or not stealing from those you have murdered, taking sex slaves or not taking sex slaves. What God decides is completely arbitrary and usually revealed after he has killed or not killed someone.
"Praise God!"
Hmmmm, it is religion that claims mankind has a "sinful nature" so that they can "save" you. Please ditch that entire premise immediately!