No small part of why I am here.

@Gnarloc if I didn't have minor children I'd be looking for a way out

@Rudy1962 If you teach math/science, you can relocate. It's ok to bring your kids.

@Gnarloc No I don't. Also my children's mother wouldn't let me take them. I'm divorced

@Rudy1962 Ah...

Currently in London for training. I will return to the States Sunday to complete my Visa (don't ask) then return to the UK on the 4th of September... at least that is the current plan.

WHEN I land for good, I will be teaching in Weston Super Mare.

not in america eventually old being at 70 they won't be able to do it would f iI could

I keep hearing that too. In fact, I was told to get my license in Math as then I'd never worry for a job... been worried ever since. Yes, I still hear we 'need' teachers of math and science, I'm just not seeing jobs very often, apply for all of them I can, and rarely get interviews. When I do, I get passed over. My thought is that it's age, though I have no proof at all.

NEED, maybe, but who's actually PAYING teachers?

@GinaMaria
Damn good question.

On the way here I spoke with someone from these parts and he said that the students get their math/science degree and leave the country to work elsewhere... which boggles a bit. That said, and correct me if I am wrong, England isn't a tech power house, so, that is somewhat understandable (the exception I can think of is that England has a rich history of leading the way in Physics).

@Gnarloc Um, hate to point this out, but when you talk of england you are actually referring to the UK. Especially if talking math and science accomplishments. Most of that begins in Scotland.

@Savage Not being perfectly familiar with the terms and where they refer to, but being a bit more conversant in England proper (versus the UK, versus Great Britain), I restricted my comment to England as I wasn't sure of the veracity of my statement (in general really) in relation to the outlying territories associated with Great Britain. IF I am using England to refer to something incorrectly (I mean to imply that territory which, historically, is England and NOT Scotland or Ireland in any portion) then please correct my understanding of the term. As it stands, I think I did my best to properly restrict my commentary so as not to cast too wide an umbrella.

Note: I don't mean that England is in any way backwards, it is not. However, as an Electrical Engineer, a computer test engineer, with over a decade of experience with IBM, I know of no tech company (or giant) that is based in England... again, I may be wrong and simply naive or stunted in my knowledge and if I am wrong, please enlighten me on that point as well.

@Gnarloc Wow, you do like to use a lot of words to communicate little. All I'm basically saying, with as few words as required. Often england and UK are considered to be the same thing in peoples thinking, in either england or abroad. Especially the US. But if you are a Scot, welsh or Irish, Da ya ken the difference. Opps, do you know the difference. I'm a bit of all three and it causes offence, but I'll let you off, just this once. ya wee sassanac.
A wee example, imagine if references to America were replaced with Texas.

@Savage yes, but he is actually going to be in England; if I were going to go live in Texas that’s what I’d say - “I’m off to Texas”. It’s not like he said ‘I’m going to Glasgow in England’

@Savage I don't have to. I was in a group headed to Spain to study Spanish and it was revealed that everyone from Canada to Argentina are now Americans. For the past 50 years only people from the United States of America were called Americans. I don't have issue with North Americans referring to people from the Norther Continent, or South Americans referring to people from the Southern Continent but using the general term for all of the above seems a bit off.

Why so many words? Too few words brought us to this impasse.

@Cassiopeia It wasn't the moving to england I was pulling him on, it was referring to englands accomplishments in science and math. england is not the source of the UKs accomplishments. Most are from Scotland. And it is often like this and as a Scot it annoys me. Even US presidents get it wrong, and don't get me started on you news media. Always getting it wrong. What Scotland needs is independance. And the way brexit is going it might happen.

@Savage The only mention of accomplishments the OP made was a passing reference to physics. I have no clue where England stands compared to Scotland (note that I capitalised that) in the physics field - do you? However, it seems that you are suggesting that Scotland is better at everything than England, which is a bit... naive. But I applaud your patriotism.

Btw it’s ‘independence’.

@Cassiopeia Scotland does have a long history of discoveries in physics and much more. And FYI, I always use small e or england.. [theculturetrip.com]

It's not anything against England. It IS that I wanted a job. It IS a comment about not being able to find one in America, as an American citizen, born and bred.

@Gnarloc I'm saddened by this.

@helionoftroy I am from the 1700's era I think.

@Gnarloc Why not consider a move to Scotland or even Wales

@Savage It was a matter of interviews. I got an offer with my first one and felt somewhat obligated to take it due to an interview question that I don't think is proper. I was actually looking forward to the second interview which was a job in Leeds.

AND, the advertisement (at least) said jobs in England. I don't know that they were excluding Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland but, here we are either way.

The question? "If I offered you the job, would you take it?" I don't like the question because saying 'no' pretty much says "don't offer me the job", while saying 'yes' sort of says "if you offer it, I MUST take it." Seems a bit passive aggressive and I need to get in the habit of just refusing to answer same for exactly that reason.

This is england. LMAO