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What Can Science Say About God's Scientific Literacy?

Since the Bible is alleged to be God's holy word, then events in the Bible reflect God's doings and of course His holy word. If some of those events fall within the realm of science (like within the physical and biological sciences) then God is subject at least in part to what science has to say about these 'scientific' Biblical events.

The Bible is literally true, and therefore must be 100% scientifically true as well because the Bible is the word of God (2 Timothy 3: 16). If you swallow that hook, line and sinker then you swallow the following claims that I'm sure professional physical and biological scientists would take some serious issue with.

Starting with the physical sciences:

*Life, the Universe and everything created in just six days roughly 6000 years ago.

*The ordering of the creations in Genesis 1 is totally at odds with what science has discovered. Genesis would have us believe that the Earth was created before the Sun and the stars.

*Forty days and nights of worldwide rain.

*A worldwide flood for which there is no evidence.

*Noah's Ark - and how did kangaroos get to and from the Ark?

*Alchemy - A woman being turned into a pillar of salt.

*A non-consuming burning bush that defies basic chemistry.

*The parting of the Red (Reed) Sea.

*Manna from heaven.

*Trumpets and shouting blowing the rock walls of Jericho down.

*The Sun & Moon commanded to stand still in the sky, and doing so.

*Walking on water.

*More alchemy - turning water into wine.

*The magical multiplication of loaves and fishes.

*Unexplained hours of darkness (during the crucifixion).

Let's not neglect the biological sciences:

*Adam was created from just plain dust.

*Eve was created from a male (Adam's) rib – therefore Eve should have been male.

*We have a serpent / snake that talks.

*There's human lifespans in excess of 900 years.

*Bats are identified as birds.

*Death to all of the ancient Egyptian first born.

*Over 600,000 people wandering aimlessly about in the wilderness for forty years.

*Becoming pregnant at 90 years of age.

*A talking donkey.

*The relationship between hair length and physical strength.

*Jonah's whale-of-a-tale of being in the 'whale' for three days and surviving to tell the tale.

*All manner of weird and wonderful highly problematical creatures including the four-winged cherubim, the six-winged seraphim, the cockatrice (or basilisk), the dragon, a flying horse, locusts (but most certainly not your normal garden variety), the behemoth, lambs with horns, giants (the Nephilim), the satyr, unicorns, the leviathan, sea monsters, and a weird composite beast that arises from the sea in Revelation 13: 1-2.

*A virgin birth – therefore Jesus should have been born female.

*Walking zombies.

*Resurrections from the dead.

So if the Bible is God's holy word then God has no comprehension of the laws, principles and relationships in and of the sciences He presumably created. On the other hand, if the Bible was written by humans for humans based on the common scientific understandings - plus a goodly dose of artistic license - and literacy of those times, then things are far more coherent.

In conclusion, I think that science has an awful lot to say about God, God's holy word and what was alleged in 2 Timothy 3: 16. Don't you? Now are you going to put your trust in hundreds of geographically isolated and unknown authors who probably were just herders and farmers with little actual formal education or scientific literacy; unnamed authors who cobbled together these Biblical texts (some of which were later rejected) over many hundreds of years; authors all living over thousands of years ago - OR - modern day highly educated professional scientists who have to get their work peer-reviewed by other highly educated professional scientists?

Addendum: There's at least one other well-known scientific anomaly in the New Testament, and that is the 'Star' of Bethlehem. It's bleedingly obvious based on the lone description in Matthew 2 that the 'star' can't be astronomical since it ends up standing still which it can't do if the Earth rotates, so for all practical purposes one may as well call it a UFO and be done with it.

Speaking of stars, the Bible relates that in the End Times the "stars will fall from heaven" (Matthew 24: 29; Mark 13: 25; Revelation 6: 13) which might have seemed plausible to the great unwashed back in Biblical times, but is total nonsense in our modern astronomy.

There's even more stellar nonsense in Joel 2: 10; and Joel 3: 15 - "The stars shall withdraw their shining".

johnprytz 7 Oct 17
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Why do you think that so many theists are more or less anti-science? They almost have to be. Some theists will actually ask, "Do you believe in science (or evolution, for example), or do you believe in God?" Even someone on this website who "claims" to be an atheist rejects the 113-year-old Theory of Relativity as false, irrational and illogical. Most theists, at least the literalists, are stuck in amber, and you cannot chisel them out. Now those who take the scriptures as spiritual metaphor can at least be reasoned with to a degree.

@johnprytz Yes, some theists even argue that we shouldn't interfere with Climate Change because it is God's will...all part of the apocalyptic thinking in this country.

@johnprytz Interesting denial rationalization. However, even if sea level rise miraculously disappears by an act of God, Global Warming could still be the "fire next time."

@johnprytz What can I say. The Second Coming has been imminent since I was a child. In fact, it has been imminent for the last 2000 years.

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Of course you are absolutely right about all these contradictions. But see where it gets you with an entrenched believer.

They are like Republicans. Or are Republicans like them? Or are they the same thing?

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No Christan has been able to give or show objective evidence that a god exist. Until they can give evidence, I have no reason to believe their holy book.

They are not interested in evidence. They don't need it, and they won't provide it. You may safely continue your disbelief.

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Well said my friend. I didn't know about the bats and the birds. Where does that come from? Thanks.

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You could stop at the part where the creator of the universe calls the moon a source of light instead of a reflection. I think that’s in the first chapter of the first book.

Marz Level 7 Oct 18, 2018

@johnprytz that’s an exceedingly far reach to make for an omnipotent creator of the universe. Occam’s razor: the writers simply didn’t know what they were looking at.

@Marz bonus points for correct use of Occam’s razor!

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What sense would it make for a Divine, Omnipotent, Omniscient Creator of Everything and Anything to simply select a group of 13, yes there were supposed to ORIGINALLY 13 Tribes of the Hebrews, NOT 12, mostly illiterate, belligerent, war-mongering, multiple Deity worshiping, Goat-herding, Tent dwelling, Feckless, Scruffy Nomads living in an era where there was NO mass Communication what-so-ever to deliver up his/her ' divine' words to them in a language (Aramaic) common only to them when there were numerous other greater and more socially evolved civilisations /cultures in and around the region?

@johnprytz Exactly and what an Idle, Indolent, Lazy God it really is, it gets mere mortals to do its work for it doesn't or perhaps it's just the Prime Original example of a Slave master instead.

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and you wonder why I am atheist because nothing in that book makes much sense

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Why not just claim, "all nonsensical mythology" and be done with it. Wanting to discuss any of it as factual is just trying to give it legitimacy.

No, imo, it is just a very good debating point showing clearly the idiocrasy of the Xtian belief system.

@johnprytz On that point I have to agree with you.

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