These kind of statements make no meaning to me....I think Women need to come up with written down codes of approach of initial contact notices that they will hand to us--so we know when not to cross the line.

OK, using your suggestion, Donald Trump is an OK date.. He certainly is always himself. No misunderstanding with him.

@Dick_Martin: False: he fails the "pay attention" and "use you manners" checks. At least.

@Dick_Martin oh I feel I need to swear here, except laughing....

@xamountofstars Let's not forget the 'ask for what you want' part. That pile of shit doesn't ask, he just takes. "I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything."

@xamountofstars I love that that quote exists. It provides a litmus test for me. You dip that strip into someone's politics, and if it still turns red, they're an awful pile of shit I want nothing to do with. All those motherfuckers that voted for Roy Moore can drop dead tonight, too, if you ask me.

Thank you I've read so many posts about sex - but nothing about STDs.

what! What! 65+ & HIV? Just exploded my head.

@Dick_Martin google it! not enough men that can or want to...become like bees pollinating flowers, in a bad way...this generation Never wanted to wear condoms back in the day.....good luck on getting them to do so when you can't get pregnant!

@AnneWimsey Uugh, I need to start dating older women. My dream is a girl that can't get preggers.

Completely timeless advice. Except when the Sith take over.

Thank you for the advice. I will bookmark this for future reference.

if you're dating someone you that you "Pretend your interested in whatever cockamamie nonsense she wants to talk about." - you're dating the wrong woman.

@RavenCT tongue firmly planted in cheek

I think we need to start defining what respect means...I think many men try to be respectful but by the end of the day, they are hit by a bucket of cold water in the face---when we say respect for women...what are the guiding principals...because today--even saying "hello" to a woman can be branded as being unrespectiful....at least in the US.

You are not alone. Wanking is the way to go...besides..it brings the same relief.

@0752532706, if that's the case, why are you open to meeting women??

@BeeHappy Just to see who can kiss a frog, I used to worry being alone,but after 38 yearsbof living alone, it no longer bothers me if they like me or not.

@0752532706, I'm sorry, it just sounds like a bitter attitude to me, and that's not very likely to attract anyone.

@BeeHappy That's very okay Beehappy, like I said..I nolonger feeling like that's the source of my oxgyen.

I hear ya. My experience is that women say a lot of things, but no isn't usually one of the words. They say things like "Oh gosh, I'd love to but my salamander is expecting twins and I want to stay close by" or "Gosh.. Friday? I can't. Sorry." or "I wish you'd asked me sooner." or, or, or. The "no of a thousand yesses."

@Dick_Martin. Ok...lol.

To avoid being sued for sexual harassment.

So you would treat a woman like a man? I'm so glad I'm not dating this guy. I would not appreciate being called hansome.

@evidentialist What era are we talking about? 1900's?

I'm a Millennial. This seems to be a post directed towards 70 year olds. See ya!

Sounds like you may have problems being nice and respectful to women. If you feel like you have to treat them as men so you won't be accused of harassment means you haven't got a clue about how you should treat a woman. I wouldn't even try if I were you, with that attitude, you'll never win anyone over!!

@evidentialist To avoid being death by hanging. Today we are paying for cuddling.

@stomato -- Please, not me. I just remarked on the probable reasoning of the original poster (Dick_Martin). The only time I would treat a woman like a man is if it were her choice (gender preference).

@stomato I think...since you are a woman---be kind enough to tell us how a woman should be approached today if one picks interest in her--don't nail anyone on the cross--simply use this platform and teach because he is not alone. We fear you (women) today. So the ball is in your hands,teach and we listen.

@Sarahroo29 -- He's talking about today and his reason apparently is that he wants to avoid being sued for sexual harassment as a result of the noise generated by the accusers who have been cropping up recently. Me? I come from an era when being a gentleman was considered the only way to be.

@0752532706 she can't speak for everyone

@btroje I have read that only women understand women,and that we ( they usually call us frogs) cannot truly know who they are--so I presume she understands 90% of what women consider respectable.

@stomato I have had women react badly to a simple "hello" and to my opening doors for them.

No, this isn't the norm but it does happen and frequently enough that...well, it hurts. I was raised to be nice and courteous. To open doors and help where I can. Some women take being nice, in and of itself, as a perverse come on. I am just being nice and I do it for guys and gals of all ages with no discrimination. It's fun, in fact, at double doors to hold it for others and have one of them hold the second door for me. "Thank you very much" and "you are very welcome" in two directions.

Part of this I get, it's age. Now that I have grey hair, it's obvious. Women will smile and act coy around a younger man doing exactly the same thing I do, which causes them to glare at me as if I'd just done something perverse. I can sort of get how someone too young to have figured it all out, but who thinks they have, might misconstrue courtesy as a attention they don't want and I hope that they will realize life is easier when we are all nice to each other AND, most importantly, a nice gesture doesn't mean you are reciprocating in a come on.

I have a friend who used to (probably still does) walk up to men and women and say that they think their "outfit looks great" or that they look "positively radiant today" and just walk away. She (key pronoun) reported 100% positive effects from that.

When I try the same? Nope. Guys treat guys who compliment them as weird. Gals (of various ages) are a very risky business with this.

IF we guys got a universal reaction to the same stimulus, we'd learn. The real problem? Just like us guys, gals are different. You are all unique and we guys need to approach each of you having to relearn the rules (mostly) each time.

How do I react to the negative stimuli? I smile, give them a positive response, and shake my head as I walk away.

The key is that you have to maintain a positive attitude, and just keep plugging. Treat them with respect, do your darnedest not to ogle their bodies (I know guys, not always easy as those eyes really do want to travel), be polite. Eventually you will find a gal who appreciates your ways of approaching them. Sadly, that gal is not always the right one... which makes it even harder. However, I do believe the end result of success is very much worth the effort... keep plugging along.

@evidentialist Well then don't do stuff to get you into that position.

@Gnarloc My exes never held the door open for me. Then again, they weren't men. They were boys in a man's body.

@0752532706 did you read that in the buybull?

Picnic or Panic? lol (I know I know spell checker).

@RavenCT I got caught

Will you grab her to a movie? Today almost all younger people now think inviting a girl/lady/.woman to a dinner or movie is sexual harassment.

@0752532706 Yea I probably step on few land mines

@0752532706 Glad I'm not that young.

@0752532706 I think asking someone out is only inappropriate in a work setting. And even there people do meet each other - but probably over lunch - not over work.

@RavenCT maybe Freud developed spellcheck, not satan

@Leutrelle I hear you loud and clear. Better be serious with my remarks.

@0752532706 I know you speak the truth

@xamountofstars Sorry. I am not being sarcastic. Thats how I dated my wife, but that was the late 60's and early 70's. We dated for 5 years

@xamountofstars Nope not sarcasm. A lot of work places have actual rules about employees dating.

@xamountofstars Sorry for all the confusion. I guess I am confused about what 075232706's part in this thread. O Well

I would friggin' hope we aren't all the same! Neither are men! And so many of you are overly paranoid, I understand why because of recent news stories but this is not most men or women, IMO.

Healthy respect toward each other, communication is key, do NOT assume...ask! Golden rule, treat people how you would like to be treated.

@sarahjustme at least you acknowledge that there's a problem.

@sarahjustme that doesn't mean being anti--men.