This is something that crops up before Christmas in the U.K. concerning presents for vulnerable children in poor parts of the world. What is often overlooked is that the people behind this are an evangelical Christian charity. The head of the charity Rev William Franklin Graham 111 has gone on record for his extreme homophobic and racist views. I guess he must be doing similar things in US.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.So I guess we should round-file the gifts? Never participate unless the leader is profoundly perfect? What is your plan here?
AnneWimsey
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Nov 8, 2018
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His father Billy, killed and skinned his African American neighbor's cat and sold it to him as rabbit and told him the next day that he had eaten his beloved pet.
Billy thought this story was thigh slapping funny all his life.
Psychopath is genetic.
BufftonBeotch
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Nov 8, 2018
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@MrLizard
It was in his biography.
Yes, it's Samaritan's Purse and it does exist in the United States. We also have the Salvation Army which is equally homophobic.
JimG
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Nov 8, 2018
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we have charities all over the place (from the u.s.) that go to other continents and provide food and medical relief... but there is a price, and it's not monetary. they evangelize. i was looking for a nonprofit from which to buy some trinket on ebay a couple years ago, by way of donating something, and i asked each one point blank whether this was the case. i was told the only group that does not make the charity contingent upon at least being receptive to conversion is the jews. christians ALL make that stipulation. therefore if i were even inclined at all to donate to a religious charity it sure wouldn't be to a christian one. surely there are groups that do charity work without any religious affiliation at all? i mean, there must be! i don't know any offhand specifically for giving gifts to children, but christmas IS a christian holiday, so organizations that do that are very likely to be christian. they might not all be blatantly homophobic and racist, but they're still going to preach.
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genessa
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Nov 8, 2018
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@OwlInASack in origin yes, but it's got christ in the name lol and they sing songs about that other imaginary god, not the main imaginary god... oh i get those imaginary gods confused!
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@MrLizard it is true that jews do not proselytize. i mean somewhere in there it is against the rules to do so. (chabad proselytizes, but only to other jews -- you know, stop being reform or conservative and come be orthodox! i think that's different, albeit it gets annoying too.) in fact if someone wants to convert, a rabbi must discourage that person officially three times (and it takes about a year of study anyway). you did the right thing, re the ex-wife; it's what a rabbi would have asked, and done.
i am jewish but i am an atheist. i was raised secularly but with a strong ethnocultural identity. i am asked sometimes how i can still call myself jewish if i'm an atheist and i won't answer that here but it is possible and not all that uncommon either.
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@OwlInASack lol i hide for a couple months at the end of each year. christmas is ubiquitous, and i feel as if it makes me invisible -- not even so much as an atheist but as a jew. did i tell this story here? i was in a car pool in which there was one driver and two passengers who just paid fpr gas instead of driving, so it was always the same car and always the same radio on during the ride. one day during the "holiday season" the radio played a chanukah song. i almost wet myself. that just doesn't happen! so i went into work feeling kind of as if my existence had been acknowledged. i must have looked happy because (if i recall) a coworker asked me why i was so cheerful, and i told her i'd heard a chanukah song on the radio. she frowned and said "if you don't believe in jesus, what have you got to sing about?" i had not told her i was an atheist. she hadn't asked. we weren't close. why would i bring it up for no reason? i also knew she wasn't very bright so i decided to couch my response in terms she could understand, from within her bubble. "his father?" i replied. she frowned again. "you know... god!" she frowned much more deeply at this. then she declared "well, the catholics have been suffering a lot longer than the jews anyway!" and stalked off. i didn't let that ruin my day. i just can't bring myself to give that much power to idiots and pardon me if i have told that story here before; it is often an appropriate tale to tell!.
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@OwlInASack your last paragraph especially: yes, sadly. yes.
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I stopped donating to such so called charitable efforts years ago when I realised they were including indoctrinating Christian texts in with the gifts. It is bribing children to believe in their particular religious creed.
Marionville
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