There they are!!

So if you're a bird get up very early, but if you're a worm sleep late!

@alliwant and if your a mouse only eat cheese if you have to crawl over/past another dead mouse

Now that's a good mom!

Well you see dave, condescending is when you explain the obvious fer someone, and jokes are always funnier after you explain em. ?

Can't find. All I can remember from it are "The blood of the convenant..." and "curiosity killed ...satisfaction brought it back"--but there were a metric ton of them--and the ensuing commentary that ends with a statement along the lines of, "It's almost like they all started out being about daring to be yourself and were neutered by the forces that want you to conform to society."

"Youll feel better in the morning" is a method of troubleshooting applied to humanity. "Have you tried turning it off and back on again?"

What contexts do you usually hear it in? I could see that bein used in the context of learning a new skill, being frustrated. In that context a mentor might say that and I'd take it to mean my skill level is commensurate with my experience. I'm not any further ahead or farther behind than I should be by now and it'll come along with some more work. But if that's what they do mean by it, it would no doubt be more effective to flip it and say you're no worse than you should be. Although the Taoist in me could hear the same thing both ways.

If theyre talking about the nature of your goodness I get it quite a bit less. They must mean whatever flaws you have are understandable given the circumstances?

@Wurlitzer Usually when one does something that displeases someone.

@Jolanta hmmm in that case it's a lot more insulting lol I take it to mean "you fucked up but what did I expect" ??

I guess it could still be either theory dependin on tone and compassion.

Yeah the history of that one fascinates me too, what have you heard of it? Correct me if Im wrong but I was hearing someone explain that the saying came from spanish and in spanish the word for prove has a double meaning. In that context it meant to test it. So it's saying that when you hold up under exceptional circumstances you've been tested and proven. I think thats the angle I've heard, mas o menos, si o no?

I haven't heard the Spanish version. From what I know it comes from ancient rome where it meant that the existence of an exception implies that there is a rule. For instance if there is a rule that allows you to eat pork on sundays you can infer from that that there is a rule that forbids eating it on other days. Which is also fallacious but more understandable imo.

@Dietl yeah I think youre right that it was latin or italian but I also bet the word in italian or spanish has the same principle to it, romance languages being so similar. It was just a spanish speaking person that explained it but he also said that exceptions help define rules in this way. Theres some deeper more meaningful subtext that Im not remembering though because it made a lot more sense and blew my mind a little at the time.

I ain't sayin I'm a communist but I been in the red all my life. I know lots of vocations, doesnt help if Im unable to find a fair wage from an employer that doesn't invade my bodily autonomy. I could take the saying literally n go fishin, I think I shall more often but not everyone has such bounty and nature available.

Thanks I had forgotten a great source of those haha. Love Carlin's wordplay.