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THHA 7 Dec 27
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A complex way to make an excuse for not having the courage of your own convictions.

Having "convictions" does not in any way prove them as fact. Being unable to prove your "convictions", but proclaiming that you know, is right there with the Christians and other deists. With regard to your use of the word "courage" . . . . As if it takes courage to say something that you can't prove . . . . What, might I ask, is the great endangering risk?

@THHA perhaps I should have been more blunt and simply said he seems to be trying to cogitate an intellectualized version Pascal's wager.

I'm still wondering where that "courage" comes to play. Also "being more blunt" is no more effective than having "convictions".

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Many people who accept the agnostic label do not understand that Huxley saw the question of knowledge to be un-solvable. It is not that one doesn't presently know or isn't certain; it is that one can't know. Inherently. Mostly, because theism fails to put forth a scientifically valid, falsifiable god hypothesis.

I have come to see agnosticism and atheism as two sides of the same coin. Agnosticism is the knowledge side; one cannot have knowledge. Atheism is the belief side; absent knowledge, one cannot form supportable beliefs. One can only play the odds. And the "odds of gods" are truly awful. So awful that it's a reasonable semantic shortcut to say "there is no god", although, technically what we're saying is that there's no evidence for god and we don't expect to see any.

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I can see that ????

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