You seem to be the one who’s an idiot.

@Trajan61 And what does that make you? I've seen so much dishonesty and ignorance in your bullshit posts, that your opinion is less than meaningless.

I see the name T61, but not the comments because I removed that dimwit from my view nearly a year ago. Ugh.....I can only imagine. He's the only one who liked every one of OP's comments and replies here.

@BlueWave. Wise decision.

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You seem to be the one who’s an idiot.

if You’re interestered, you can read exactly how she would like to raise money. It’s not a secret.

@FreethoughtKaty That woman is so crazy I’m not interested in anything she says.

@Trajan61 that’s a choice you are making. Although it’s pretty senseless to comment on things you refuse to inform yourself about.

@FreethoughtKaty I’m informed enough to know that, that woman is a raving lunatic!!

@Trajan61 how, specifically?

What lies?

Cleary not. I am not intimidated by anyone
Hard to believe that anyone finds a meme offensive, yet are ok with killing unborn babies .

@RobertMartin I'm going to read the rest of this thread to see what the smart people say.

Then I'm going to make use of the block feature on this site.

Good grief, how are so many people in this country so damned dense?

@F-IM-Forty that's right, it is my money and the government doesn't deserve to tax me as much as they do now much less under AOC's plan.

@F-IM-Forty I have no problem paying taxes for the military and judicial system. I have a major issue paying taxes for foreign aid.

You pay into socialism right now. What do you think taxes are for?

@F-IM-Forty however, the citizens of those recipient countries don't benefit from our sending them the money. The so called leader of the country keeps the money for themselves, the people go hungry, have limited access to clean drinking water and there is no infrastructure to speak of.

@ESmith why not, why should I have to do more than other people. After all AOC states that if anyone doesn't want to work will get free money and free stuff, so why not take advantage of that.

@RobertMartin That's a lie. AOC never said that.

Regarding "MY money" and taking half of it. Are you one of the 2,000 people earning more than $10,000,000 per year? No? Didn't think so. So, what's your problem with AOC's idea?

Well, most of them support 45, so what can you expect?
They're fucking stupid.

And how did socialism work out for Venezuela?

The reason socialism works in Scandinavian countries is because they think inward. They don't send billions of dollars in foreign aid to other countries.

@RobertMartin Socialism isn't what hurt Venezuela. Sanctions and corruption were the primary cause of their economic collapse.

@JimG with that being said, socialism won't work here because our government is totally corrupt

@RobertMartin which is why we need people who will challenge both parties, like AOC.

@RobertMartin ,
the US sends lots of drones, missiles & bombs to kill innocent civilians.
if the US didn't have such a corrupt system run by the military, industrial, security complex which eisenhower warned about 60 yrs ago there wouldn't be such a huge unpayable national debt & there would be good affordable healthcare for all.
there also wouldn't be the huge income inequality which just keeps growing.
anyway, it's too late now to make changes. it will take a burn & crash, a great reckoning.

It's only stupid because you support AOC. If it were a Trump meme, you'd be liking it and not calling it stupid.

The tax rate of 70% on the wealthy was from 1930 until 1980.

@jlynn37 Thank you for the specifics. I was too exasperated to google the exact dates.

I don't drink kool-aid.

@RobertMartin That's what you came away with? "I don't drink kool-aid".
You are jumping on that bandwagon of those who are attacking AOC with lies. Shame on you. I really thought you were better than that.

@KKGator I was merely correcting an inaccuracy that you stated.
And what lies?

@RobertMartin Well, for starters, that she's "crazy". That's definitely a lie.
Secondly, that her idea to tax the wealthiest Americans at 70% is something so unheard of. That's been done before. As recently as 1980, and for the 50 years before that.
There are more, but seriously, what's with all the AOC hate?
Just because she's young, intelligent, and wanting to shake things up?
I thought that's why so many people voted for 45. You know, because he was going to "shake things up".
What do you have against her?

@KKGator I think her plan will cause major unemployment. The coal miners for example. In western Pennsylvania, West Virginia and parts of Kentucky the mines are the best paying jobs for those areas. Shutting down the mines will have a ripple effect on the local and regional economies.

@RobertMartin Most of the mines are already shut down, and that's because the coal companies are finding other ways to make more money.
Coal really is dead. It's been that way for a long time. I don't even know why people are still expecting coal mines to reopen. They're not going to.
The unemployment rates among those who worked in the mines is already high. Just as a point of fact, there have been many programs offered to those in the effected regions, for education and retraining, so they could find jobs in other areas. Those programs did not attract the people who needed them the most. Very few took advantage of what was offered to them.
They believed 45 when he lied to them and said "coal was coming back".
The guy currently running the EPA is a former coal industry lobbyist.
The people of those regions who needed the ACA for their health issues, voted against it because 45 and the republicans kept calling it "Obamacare". Not even realizing that it was the SAME THING.
The mines being closed has already had the "ripple effect" on the economies of those regions.
Right now, most of the coal-mining in this country occurs WEST of the Mississippi River, not east of it.
Your argument about causing unemployment is a good 20 years old, and is no less fallacious now, than it was then.

@RobertMartin , in this part of Ky the union mines were broken years ago. Benefits were cut .Pensions stopped. Now they work mostly temps. My daughter worked there. In eastern Ky they owners have gone to ripping the top off the mountains. Which only employs about a dozen people, max, instead of the fifty or sixty it would have taken to operate an underground. Mountain removal mining trashes the mountains, disrupts the wildlife, and has ruined most drinking water in the area. People have to buy their water from the store. It's really bad. And don't get me started on on the cut of environmental regulations.

Ok Ok so you don't like being up staged by 29 year old black female. I get it. But calling her names says more about you than her. The top marginal tax rate was 98% untill Ronie Ray gun reduced it to 70%. That tax rate recycled so much cash through the US economy that the most prosperous middle class in the history of the world was created. The Green New Deal that you are quaking over is not ment to be financed by this tax increase. The GND is a long term plan to save your uninformed butt from getting sucked away in the pending shit storm caused by climate change. So be nice to that little black woman, she's way better read than you and me both and her ideas are the best game in town for our servival. Shhhh! Watch and learn.

@Tompain1 You are quite brainwashed and delusional.

@Trajan61 It's called history. It's all been done before. It's like the civil war. The slave owning south lost. People who studied history know that. People who don't understand history keep wanting to re-fight the civil war and they keep loosing. Save yourself a lot of time and energy, read a history book. The framers of the constitution were explicit about the evils of an aristocratic class. It spells death to democracy. They knew this because of the thousands of years of history that they studied. So taxing the rich and recycling the wealth into the general economy is how democracies survive and protect themselves from greedy aristocrats. Now it's certainly possable that you have a better plan. And if you do, let's hear it.

@Tompain1 I have a degree in history and am well read on it. Cortez can never pay for her so called green new deal with a 70% income tax on those with income over 10,000,000 as what she purposes would cost trillions and she wants to do it by 2030, hardly a long term plan. Seems like you need to study a little history yourself.

@Trajan61 what black women, who are you referring to?

@RobertMartin Your confusing with Tompain1 as I never mentioned a black woman. Hell Cortez is Puerto Rician not black like he says.

@Trajan61 thanks for clearing that up. I thought for sure that she was Latino.

Thank you for pointing out what was REALLY proposed. Dumb asses and spin doctors twist the facts just like their Cheeto Head Mafioso boss who brags about paying no taxes and just cut the richest people's taxes and raised two in three average American taxes. He really cares about others now doesn't he? Fuck twats, learn to read and turn off FAUX news.

Don't tell the poor that, that's what they aspire to make. It's also what they think about when conservatives complain about taxation of the rich. The poor think it could be them taxed next, if they only got a break and made a few more dollars???

@ownworstenemy I make 6 figures in medicine. I’m not poor by any stretch, but I’m certainly not rich. But yes I agree with you. I don’t have anything to complain about or get excited about either lol

@ownworstenemy because most poor people don’t think of themselves as “poor” but as middle class people who are having a bad run.

Yes it’s 8 figures but the word socialism tends to bring the stupid out of its opponents.

@48thRonin Fox News, as usual, has been promoting her as if she said 70% of everything. That's not even how the tax brackets we have now work (or ever did). Hannity even had a segment where he played exactly what she said, outlining the example of everything over 10 million dollars, etc., and he IMMEDIATELY said she said 70% of everything everyone earns. His audience is so angry, though, they probably didn't even notice.

Also as a note, it is NOT on the "8 figures", but everything ABOVE the 8 figures. Everything up to the 8 figures would be taxed the same way they are now, I am assuming.

@greyeyed123 Well I feel dumb enough so I avoid all forms of corporate media especially Fox News but as soon as you said Hannity I felt like I forgot math.
So no shock but still saddening

That won’t be nearly enough to do what she wants to do.