They are spying on us. Reporting back to the mother ship about the evils being perpetrated by the members. I'm almost sure of it. Some of the male believers come here thinking they might get laid by these heathen women.

Hmm well I'm nominally a sort of "believer," but I guess mostly what William said

I am neither an atheist nor a believer. I don’t think that belief is an appropriate emotion in the face of the overwhelming fact of our existence as conscious beings. No one understands Ultimate Reality. The only appropriate emotion as I see it is a sense of awe and wonder.

It makes not one bit of difference what word you use to label Ultimate Reality. If you want to say “God”, that is ok with me. “Nature” works as well, or Universal Consciousness too.

The reason I like this forum is that there are a good many courageous and intelligent people here who have rejected shallow church dogmas and are full of stimulating thoughts and ideas.