I've been thinking "here goes another Civil War...." for a while now. Families are divided, friends and strangers.

I'd be up for seperating. (they can build the wall though).

I just don't know where all the hate is coming from - how so many men and women just hate? I'm so tired of the hate.

I think we just need to wait it out. So many things have changed in recent decades for the better. We become more liberal as the country and it's citizens, age.

It's crossed my mind, but just think, you'd be stuck n Kansas. Lol

Geographically it wouldnt work. There are giant pockets of liberals wirrounded by conservative rural areas.

I've read that the liberal-conservative split in America isn't so much between red states and blue states, but between urban and rural areas. You couldn't divide up on an ubran-rural axis as cities and small towns-and-country are too interdependent.

If you were going to divide on a red state-blue-state basis, it would work out to about three countries, a blue West Coast and Hawaii contaning a long suffering Alaska, San Diego, Orange County, and rural counties. A blue North East, a red evreywhere else, and having to decide who gets custody of the purple rust belt.

Yeah, the interesting part is that the Liberal areas generate so much more of the Nations income than anywhere else. I mean, the West Cost would largely be part of the Liberal country in question, with the NE/cost being another large part (which makes the theory untenable for reality) which also has a large part of the economy. So, you'd have a very welthy liberal country, containing a very poor Republican (I won't call it conservative because what the Republican party is right now really isn't conservative, at least not by the definition I understand) country... which would be fun to watch! The Reps would just go ape shit pissed about that!

I mean, California has an economy bigger than many countries! So, how would it be feasible for those poor states to be separated from their only means of financial support?

The fact is that we need to seriously work on our economy and the Reps just don't see that. Further irony, if we did have a strong economy, a lot of these divisive issues wouldn't be so divisive! <sigh> Yeah, I want this to be over, like two years ago!

It would be nice! Problem is those pesky corporations and 1%ers on both sides would never give up their stranglehold on the natural resources of the other side. They don't keep this country united for the interest of the citizens, they keep it united for profits and labor pools.

You probably think in terms of separating the liberal states from the conservative states. But actually liberals live in cities where they learn to work together with others towards common goals. Conservatives are mostly found in rural areas where they suck up lots of government benefits (mostly paid for by liberals) while spouting off about how independent they are.

As for if the confederacy had won they would have, no doubt, sided with Germany during WW II.

Hi
you know I've come to that conclusion years ago, however, I believe that it's impossible.
Because the government as we know it (trump) would not allow it , using extreme force -guns to prevent it.
He has this country caught in a web of
obfuscation and lies.
Sorry for the rant.
You are a very bright person.

It has already

This could never happen in reality. If we can't agree on simpler things, who is going to make the decisions about where the division would take place? Who gets the industries? Who gets the farmland? What currency will be used? Most of all, who will get control of the military? This idea sounds great...for five seconds until questions like this have to be answered.

Estimates of American Civil War dead yield about 785,000+. All for naught?

Long term I could be great, short term would be like India and Pakistan.
Much of the population would have to physically move/relocate.

Even on the left coast it is only in the coastal areas or big cities where it is blue. Since they are the largest population centers in the states, the whole states are blue. Look at the state electoral map of CA and you'll know what I mean.

CA by itself has the 6th largest economy in the world. If the western parts of the west coast succeded or joined BC... Sadly it is just a dream.

So, if we split, one part of the country continues to guzzle gas, makes more coal plants, and trash windmils and solar farms. They eliminate all medicare, medicaid, school lunches, and other social programs, eliminate jobs by automating, stop paying for education, and max out the military.

Since they have automated, they only want a few people in their world. They force all the undesirables out, the poor and middle class, and control 80% of the resources of the US, because they already own them.

The rest of us, live in a small section of the US, and have 20% of the resources to take care of 95+% of the population.

I think it cannot work. They have been stealing from us for years, we should take it back.

I don't know how long this will last..Conservatives could turn on Trump in an instant if he crosses them, or Fox News decides to attack him, call him "Fake News" or the religious Right becomes offended and tells their congregations to boycott him.

I think it would have to be split in more than two.

I've been thinking the same thing about the Confederacy in the past several years.

Splitting into two countries would end us as the dominant world power and make us vounerable at the same time. Another civil war is not impossible either but it is notable that the Conservatives have the most guns.

I've thought about this more times than I count. Things recently have been quite vicious. I don't particularly identify with conservatives or liberals but would probably side w/liberals if given the option because around 75-90% of my views coincide with theirs.

Wow. Interesting concept. I think you are on to something. I don't think it should be strictly idiological. Geographically, I think New England could be a good and viable country on its own.

This sounds like a good idea but it's just an idea. America still functions better regardless.

Never. I would willingly give my life to keep this country united. There millions of people in the south would need us to help them in Their fight to survive..only This time we show No mercy to Traitors...

No it would not be better. We would be far better off annexing Canada.