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No Russian collusion or conspiracy! A total liberal fiasco. Will the idiots apologize? They never do.

zesty 7 Mar 25
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Huh!? Lol, of course there was Russian collusion and conspiracy. 🙂 There's evidence of it. It just wasn't illegal. At least not enough to be successfully prosecuted.

What's liberal about? There was evidence, Congress was duty bound to follow it. Liberals had no decision in it, so no apology needed. The federal government had to investigate as a matter of national security, based on the evidence. No party or group could have stopped it.

Why would the Russians want to have Trump, an intelligent, patriotic, aggressive enemy when they could have a zero integrity puppet like Clinton?

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Please!!! You claim to be an educated person. Show some depth of understanding beyond the headlines manufactured by those who wish to see them.

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How about apologizing for being an idiot??

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Just in case you weren't keeping track . . .

Hillary Clinton Benghazi "Investigation"
4 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Hillary Clinton Email "Investigation"
2 years
0 indictments
0 convictions

Trump-Russia Investigation

15 months

32 Indictments/Charges (Individuals) (and counting)

3 Indictments/Charges (Companies)
5 GUILTY pleas (and counting)
4 CONVICTIONS (and counting)

Indicted: Paul Manafort
Indicted: Rick Gates
Indicted: George Papadopoulos
Indicted: Michael Flynn
Indicted: Richard Pinedo
Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan
Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik
Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers
Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin
Indicted: Mikhail Burchik
Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova
Indicted: Anna Bogacheva
Indicted: Sergey Polozov
Indicted: Maria Bovda
Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov
Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev
Indicted: Irina Kaverzina
Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko
Indicted: Internet Research Agency
Indicted: Concord Management

Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn
Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous
Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo
Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan
Guilty Plea: Rick Gates

Over 191 Criminal Charges (and counting):

Conspiracy against the USA (2 counts)
Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)
Bank fraud (8 counts)
Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)
Making false statements (6 counts)
Failure to file reports of foreign bank accounts (14 counts)
Unregistered agent of a foreign principal (2 counts)
False FARA statements (2 counts)
Subscribing to false tax returns (10 counts)

Assisting in preparation of false tax documents (5 counts)
Conspiracy to defraud the United States (13 counts)
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (2 counts)
Aggravated identity theft (24 counts)

Indictments are merely accusations,,, not convictions. Out of 200 indictments, there were 5 guilty pleas, to charges unrelated to Trump or the election. So what does that tell you? (Yes, it's a rhetorical question... don't bother.)

@Captain_Feelgood What it tells me is that Robert Mueller did a thorough investigation.

@Captain_Feelgood Also, it tells me that crimes were committed and people were arrested and put on trial. If there wasn't anything there then why all the indictments? Why all the guilty pleas? The report may not show evidence of collusion with Russia, but obstruction of justice has not been ruled out. The report also tells me that this nation is so invested in an us vs them mentality that many people cannot, or more to the point refuse, to see that our democracy is over. Trump went into office saying that he was going to drain the swamp. He filled the swamp with more swamp ooze. He put people at heads of departments that wanted to weaken said departments. These are not moves of a democratic nation but of an oligarchy focusing on it's own interests over the interests of the people. The sad part is most people don't care as long as their guy is winning. What the report tells me is that the Constitution isn't worth the paper it is written on when we fail to enforce it. It also tells me that this won't be the last time something like this happens. This is just the beginning. There may not have been any collusion, but there definitely was interference by an outside nation to grossly affect the election. This nation will destroy itself from the inside out.

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uh oh.....don't start

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15 other lawsuits. He who laughs last laughs best.

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Did the Republicans apologize to Hillary for all of their needless investigations?

We need much more investigation into the crimes of Hillary!

Of course. She is the one who should go to prison!

@zesty What crime did she commit? If she had committed a crime, I'm pretty sure she would be in jail by now. What crime did she commit?

@jorj What evidence is there?

@jorj I do remember that. I also believe that Comey stated that there was no intent and that not all of the emails were classified. But, what about Jared Kushner using WhatsApp to conduct official business? What about Ivanka using her personal email for official business? You see, you can't condemn one person for doing something and then do that exact same thing. The hypocrisy of the situation is quite astounding.

@jorj So here's the thing, she never moved confidential information from one server to another. She only had the one server and used multiple e-mail capable devices to conduct business. Also, even if Comey did not recommend pressing charges, that doesn't mean that the Department of Justice has to follow that recommendation. Now, with all the tax dollars that the Republicans waisted doing investigation after investigation one would think that they would ha e found something to incriminate Hillary with and they never did. Don't be all upset because your boy trump got investigated and results came through. There may not have been collusion, but that doesn't mean trump didn't obstruct justice to prevent them from finding something. This administration has been the most investigated administration since Reagan. If the Hillary emails were so bad, why didn't the Republicans choose to investigate Collin Powell and Condoleeza Rice for using private email containing classified information?

@jorj What, exactly, is this SAP info you speak of? I have not come across that in any of the articles that I have read about the Hillary email scandal. She used a private email along with a private server to do government business. I wonder, would you be that upset and outraged if trump fired Comey to put an end to the Russia investigation? Because that would be obstruction of justice. Hillary could very well have been prosecuted by the justice department but they chose not to. What if the roles were reversed and Colin Powell was found to have done the same thing as Hillary. Would you be as equally outraged? I seriously don't think so.

@jorj Both parties suck. This government as it is today sucks. You are all up in arms about how Hillary should be in prison but you seem to look the other way that a foriegn entity has compromised our election and that they will do it again. I'm not a fan of Hillary, but compared to trump, she was the lesser of two evils. This country is on a course to self destruction and economic collapse. The hypocrisy of focusing on one person while another person does something far worse is pathetic. Trump isn't out of the woods yet.

@jorj I stand corrected about the SAPs. With all due respect, your rhetoric sounds a lot like a trump supporter/Republican. I can understand that someone doesn't have to like/support either party. I don't like either party either. They are two piles of shit, but we must find the one that smells the least. Nothing will change in the country and things will get worse. Yes, most Americans are gullible and will believe anything posted online. We used to be a nation that could think critically but that was a long time ago.

@jorj I apologize for saying with all due respect. That just sounds bad. I get what you're saying. If she had those emails on her private server she should have suffered the consequences for it. But you and I both know, like stated earlier, she wouldn't have gone to prison anyway. It seems rich white people don't go to prison or at least not for very long. I think Martha Stewart might have been the exception. You raise a lot of good points.

@jorj I can understand that. I apologize for calling you a trump supporter. You are right about CNN and MSNBC. I don't think there is a decent news outlet out there anymore, or at least there aren't that many anymore. Yes, people do need to do their own research but that's too difficult for most people.

@jorj I enjoyed our discussion. I do apologize if I insulted you in any way. I try to stick to the subject matter and not the person. Its something I need to work at doing better. I try not to be arrogant about things as well. I try to be informed but sometimes I just need to put my sanity above being informed. What outlets do you use to do your research?

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So you've read the report?

1of5 Level 8 Mar 25, 2019

The available info is just satisfactory.

@mzbehavin ....exactly

Well, it came from the Democrat's beloved Mueller... Liberals couldn't kiss his ass hard enough when they thought he was going to send Trump packing.. Now... weeeelllll,, let's just say they don't love him anymore.. ?

@Captain_Feelgood the Republican appointed Mueller?

@Captain_Feelgood You do realize Mueller was appointed by Republicans, right?

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No they have a hard time accepting the truth.

gater Level 7 Mar 25, 2019
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